Sixers-Pelicans Lottery Thread

[Eagles_Legendz]

yeah can't say i'm disappointed with what i've been hearing about Parker.  Still want Wiggins but I won't shed any tears if Parker is wearing a Sixers jersey next season.

[phattymatty]

i read some douchebags arguing about who the sixers should pick today, one guy said he didn't want embiid with noel there already....the guy comes back with, thats like passing on tim duncan because you already have someone like ben wallace on the team.

i was so angry that he didn't use david robinson in that perfect analogy that i turned my computer off.

[Rome]

you ok, pal?

[ice grillin you]

They don't need Embiid if they're going to build around Noel.

i read some douchebags arguing about who the sixers should pick today, one guy said he didn't want embiid with noel there already....the guy comes back with, thats like passing on tim duncan because you already have someone like ben wallace on the team.

[Rome]

You really don't think Embiid is gonna be the next Duncan, do you?

God, just take Wiggins and be thankful two other dipshtein franchises passed.

[ice grillin you]

hes much more athletic than duncan but how do you read any of that and come away with someone having said that hes going to be as good as duncan

matty is using duncan as an example along with ben wallace as a way of saying thats its ludicrous to think you cant take embiid because you already have nerlens noel

[BigEd76]

They don't need Embiid if they're going to build around Noel.

i read some douchebags arguing about who the sixers should pick today, one guy said he didn't want embiid with noel there already

Keep on baiting. I'm not biting

[ice grillin you]

lol

[BigEd76]

From Chad Ford's chat today:

What do you think the bucks top 4 on their draft board looks like?
This could obviously change with workouts and interviews but here's my best guess: 1a. Embiid 1b. Parker 3. Exum 4. Wiggins

How do you think the Sixers have the following players ranked in order of best to worst? Embiid Wiggins Parker Exum
1. Wiggins 2. Embiid then I think it's a scrum between Exum and Parker. The thing is, if the Cavs pass on Wiggins (which they very well may) I think he's there at No. 3. So they may just have to be patient.

Chad, I'm really enjoying the back and forth pieces between you and Kevin about the prospects (still miss Hollinger, but I'm a big fan of Kevin's SCHOENE system). In today's piece about Exum, you said the Sixers could draft him and you said "I think the more obvious fit comes if they trade Carter-Williams, an idea I'm told they have bounced around." Could you elaborate on what you've heard and the seriousness of it? Does that mean they don't think MCW is a future allstar?
Sam Hinkie is as asset collector. There are no untouchables on the second worst team in the NBA right now. Carter-Williams may have over performed a bit this rookie year given the situation he was in. If a team blew away the Sixers with an offer for him, yes I think they'd consider it. They like Exum and if they got another piece for Williams that made them better in the long-term, I think they could be willing to let him go.

What are the chances someone before Orlando takes Exum and if so who would be dropping down to them? As A Magic fan I'm excited about Exum but in odd twist also would be excited if any of the other top 3 drop to them.
I think there's a chance the Bucks could take Exum at 2. If they do, then I think it would be either Embiid or Parker that would fall to them there. They'd snap up both players in a heart beat. Also don't count out Marcus Smart in Orlando. They loved him last year, he's already gone into a workout there and there are some in the organization who believe he's better than Exum.

Who do the sixers like at 10?
Depends on what they do at 3. But I think it's safe to say that shooting is a big need and there are some excellent shooters like Doug McDermott, Nick Stauskas, Gary Harris and James Young in this range. They may also need a power forward. If the top guys drop, the pickings are a little slimmer though I think Dario Saric would be a steal here if he was still on the board.

Your thoughts on Dario Saric. How high does he go?
I think he's talented enough to be in the same conversation with Vonleh, Randle, Gordon and Smart. He's another killer on the court who almost singled handedly carried his team to an Adriatic League final. To do that at the age of 20 in Europe is really amazing. He may have the highest basketball IQ of anyone in the draft. He's very versatile, especially when he has the ball in his hands. But he's got to convince teams that he's coming now (something his father has been adamantly opposed to) to go in the Top 8. If he's staying in Europe the next few years then his range probably starts at the Sixers at 10 or the Magic at 12 (both teams with multiple lottery picks).

[ice grillin you]

chad ford is an idiot when it comes to chats (yet i still watch them all live)...its ok when he says "i think"...but too often i guess hes trying to asnwer too fast and says things that he absolutely does not know the answer to but answers it like he does...for example no one on the planet has any clue how hinkie magic has those guys ranked...his only claim to fame so far as a gm is that he doesnt talk....but chad somehow knows

and then when theres zero chance of something happening he will always say there is (like the bucks taking exum at 2)...he does it to get message boarders and bloggers all fired up...dumb sixer fans will now read that and get all excited about having a choice from 2 of the 3 out of parker wiggins and embiid

then he says hinkie is an asset collector yet says what they do at 3 will dictate what they do at 10....an asset collector of a team with a D league roster is not going to pick by need...in fact i would almost guarantee that ford has said at one point recently that the sixers arent good enough to go with need

stick to watching workouts and film or interviewing scouts about the draft and leave the unfounded garbage at home CHAT ford

[Chameleon]

chad ford is an idiot when it comes to chats (yet i still watch them all live)...its ok when he says "i think"...but too often i guess hes trying to asnwer too fast and says things that he absolutely does not know the answer to but answers it like he does...for example no one on the planet has any clue how hinkie magic has those guys ranked...his only claim to fame so far as a gm is that he doesnt talk....but chad somehow knows

and then when theres zero chance of something happening he will always say there is (like the bucks taking exum at 2)...he does it to get message boarders and bloggers all fired up...dumb sixer fans will now read that and get all excited about having a choice from 2 of the 3 out of parker wiggins and embiid

then he says hinkie is an asset collector yet says what they do at 3 will dictate what they do at 10....an asset collector of a team with a D league roster is not going to pick by need...in fact i would almost guarantee that ford has said at one point recently that the sixers arent good enough to go with need

stick to watching workouts and film or interviewing scouts about the draft and leave the unfounded garbage at home CHAT ford

Solid post IGGY.

[SD]

Kings are looking to move the 8th pick for a Veteran. Maybe Thad and 10 gets it done.

http://tracking.si.com/2014/05/22/kings-looking-to-trade-pick-youth-veteran-nba-draft/

[Rome]

hes much more athletic than duncan but how do you read any of that and come away with someone having said that hes going to be as good as duncan

matty is using duncan as an example along with ben wallace as a way of saying thats its ludicrous to think you cant take embiid because you already have nerlens noel

I understood Matty's point and yours too.  And I agree with it.   I'm saying if Wiggins is there at 3, you count your blessings and snag him with the quickness.  If for some reason you end up with Embiid, it's not like you're going to run to the garage and turn the car on with the door closed.   If he's healthy he's going to be an all-star and you could do worse.   Noel might be a nice complementary piece on a playoff/championship team, but yeah, not taking Embiid because you have Noel there is lolol funny.

[Eagles_Legendz]

Kings are looking to move the 8th pick for a Veteran. Maybe Thad and 10 gets it done.

http://tracking.si.com/2014/05/22/kings-looking-to-trade-pick-youth-veteran-nba-draft/

I'm not sure I do that if I'm the Sixers unless I'm trying to max out tanking again next year.  I'm for moving Thad, and have no problem with a deal with the Kings, but I'm not sure just getting to move up from 10 - 8 for Thad (unless someone they really want is there) makes much sense.  It's not like the Sixers can't pay Thad's contract. 

I know igy floated the idea previously of trading MCW to the Kings for #8 and drafting Exum at 3 while still getting to pick 8/10.  I also am not sure I'm on board with that but it's interesting.

[ice grillin you]

gotta go full tank next year....you cant make the playoffs or you lose your first rounder and if you are gonna shoot for the lottery you might as well go for the gusto...if the kids are better than expected then so be it....but free agency this summer should basically be non existent and thad gotta go