2013-14 Phillies Offseason Thread

[PhillyPhreak54]

Saw a note that said they've reached their '14 payroll.

Really ?

[SD]

What more were you expecting?

[PhillyPhreak54]

I don't know to be honest.

[Geowhizzer]

As long as Amaro is the GM, I won't be expecting much.

[SD]

Know what sucks? Having a GM with no vision. That's why Amaro is the worst GM in the city. Holmgren has a vision which mimics Sniders which is why he's still the GM. They still think it's the mid 70's and have a horrible philosophy that's outdated but at least they have a vision. Hinkie...I have nothing to contribute. Howie...he did his nerdy market research and went with the spread offense trend. Amaro? Nothing. He adds crap and makes bad trades and is the front offices bitch.

[Geowhizzer]

The other thing is that I've seen signs that the ownership is going back to its tight-fisted ways - well, maybe that's unfair, but they're not going to go over the luxury tax.  Probably there's no reason to expect otherwise.  They'll spend up to the cap.  But those that thought the Phils would start spending like the Yankees were mistaken.  There is a limit, and Amaro's wasted that budget.

[Rome]

I disagree.  His philosophy is pretty easy to discern.  He traded away the future by going for it in 09-11 and now he's stuck with an aging, over-paid core of veterans who've long outlived their usefulness.  He has no choice but to double down with this core of guys and hope/pray for a miracle.  It's not going to happen, obviously, but that's the plan.

The most infuriating thing about his comments is the "$165M should build a contender" bullshtein.   Really?  Ya think?  It would have if you weren't such a colossal blundering dickhead, ROOB.

[BigEd76]

Lou Marson is back, and they also signed Tony Gwynn Jr.  Valle was DFAed to make room for Carmonandez

[smeags]

parade muthfargas - parade !

[PhillyPhreak54]

Apparently there is "mutual interest" between the Phils and Madson.

Gettin' the band back together....jeez

[Geowhizzer]

It's not like he hasn't pitched in two years or anything...

[Rome]

3/$30M

Signed.

[SD]

Hopefully that means Paps is on his way out

[Rome]

As a fan of irony that would please me.

[MDS]

madson hasnt pitched in 2 years.

this will end well