Around the NFL - 2013

[reese125]

which is crazy when you have 4 of them on d--3 being LB's and Berry at safety-- and they were still 8th worst in pts given up per game

[QB Eagles]

The quarterbacking on that team was just mind-blowingly awful.... if they even had the Arizona QB situation this past season, it would have been a huge step up in quality.

[Diomedes]

A murder suicide by a player on the grounds just has to farg things up too.

[reese125]

The quarterbacking on that team was just mind-blowingly awful.... if they even had the Arizona QB situation this past season, it would have been a huge step up in quality.

which is ironic because arizona is supposedly interested in cassel too

[ice grillin you]

i wasnt even counting hali...i forgot he made it....i thought albert made it as a reserve

also bowe is easily a pro bowler if he has someone to throw him the ball

they also had arguably the worst coaching staff in the nfl....say what you want about andy but he is worth at least three or four more wins than romeo crennel....crennel and his staff is a big factor in how bad cassel was

[PhillyPhreak54]

They'll be 10-6/11-5.

[MDS]

can we please bet that the kansas city chiefs will not win 10 games

name your price

[ice grillin you]

10 is their ceiling but a def possibility......11 is nuts

[MDS]

its definitely possible...just very unlikely. a number of things have to go right just for them to get to 8 or 9. realistically 6-8 would be a good number for them to hit.

also all of this depended on andy reid reverting back to his pre-2005 form. its tough for people to see but hes been a terrible coach for a long time now.

[ice grillin you]

they should have won 6-8 last year

with a better qb a way better staff and a better roster - under .500 would be a really bad end result...in fact i think 8 wins is a given.....that said the toughest wins are going to be 9 and 10.....but i think they can do it in that zesty division

[MDS]

andy reid post giants comeback has been as bad as romeo. the job he did after that game...minny loss, gb loss, then 2 straight abomination seasons are on the level of romeo, bruce coslet, rod marinelli or any other terrible coach you could think of.

theres a chance of course the new gig rejuvenates andy and he coaches em up like an early 2000's nfc east game. but id be willing to bet that andy is dead. he hasnt been around since probably the 2006 jeff garcia run.

[ice grillin you]

thats just not true

andy made the playoffs three straight years before heckert was banished and howie took over PP...the ship started to sink when they went all dream team and started acting like the taterskins...farging up drafts....trying to buy a team via FA....not saying andy didnt have something to do with it....but it had a lot more to do with the power shift around him imo

[MDS]

post 2006 run:

2007 8-8
2008 9-6-1 (lucked into playoff spot, albeit with a legendary week 17 win, road win over tarvaris jackson, road win against a division team, disgraceful loss to arizona)
2009 11-5 (solid season undone by back to back cowboys chokes)
2010 10-6 (in hindsight the kolb move was a mistake. he sucks. so did mcnabb at that point. vick was a flash in the pan...it was all good until the wheels came undone post-giants comeback)
2011 8-8 (record is misleading, this was a joke)
2012 4-12

his decision making...from keeping mcnabb around too long to choosing kolb to then choosing vick...all terrible. in game he is the worst in the league. his gameplanning and preparation always put him above everyone else but that began to fade over this time.

again the new spot, no more marty, new team, etc. all could work in his favor. but i just think the coach of 01, 02, 03, 04 is dead and gone and never coming back.

[ice grillin you]

you can try and spin as negatively as humanly possible and boy did you....but at the end of the day in the worst run of his life he made the playoffs 50% of the time

[MDS]

lol i did didnt i