2012 Flyers Offseason Thread

Started by BigEd76, June 21, 2012, 11:36:37 AM

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QB Eagles

Oh I get it. It seems like if Nashville is saying they'll match without such a trade, 1) it's a total bluff and the Flyers can probably get away with either rejecting or or (more probably) using it to dump some salary in exchange for the future picks and 2) it's basically a face-saving gesture by making the Flyers give up something immediately tangible to the Nashville fanbase for Weber. Seems fine to me, the Flyers are in the driver's seat either way.

ice grillin you

Quote from: QB Eagles on July 23, 2012, 09:30:00 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 23, 2012, 07:57:52 PM
Somebody on the PSF board (is that you, SD?) posted that Dreger said that was the trade proposal BEFORE the offer sheet was signed.

It locks up all their finances in a star who doesn't want to be there

has he actually said he doesnt wanna be there?

because if thats true then hes a lock to the flyers
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Seabiscuit36

#197
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 24, 2012, 07:36:06 AM
Quote from: QB Eagles on July 23, 2012, 09:30:00 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 23, 2012, 07:57:52 PM
Somebody on the PSF board (is that you, SD?) posted that Dreger said that was the trade proposal BEFORE the offer sheet was signed.

It locks up all their finances in a star who doesn't want to be there

has he actually said he doesnt wanna be there?

because if thats true then hes a lock to the flyers
What he said was after they made no offer to Suter, he felt that they were not going to do what was necessary to get them to a Cup Final.  Essentially, spending money.  His agent said as much as well, Shea came to philly two weeks ago, got the full tour and no one knew.  He loved the city, loved the Org, and the history(blah blah blah).  In the end, he wants a shot at a cup, and philly can and will spend $ to ensure they're putting the best they can out on the ice, minus wasting millions on Bryz

QuoteMeanwhile, Wednesday's deadline is fast approaching for the Nashville Predators to decide whether or not to match Philadephia's 14-year, $110 million dollar offer sheet for Shea Weber.

Nashville ownership is expected to meet again on Tuesday to determine what's best for the organization, however, many around the NHL don't believes the Preds will match and may instead use the compensatory draft picks as trade bait for roster players.

A very speculative view, given how guarded Nashville has been throughout the process.

-DarrenDreger
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

Seabiscuit36

on the opposite spectrum, John Shannon from CBC Sportsnet says that the Preds agreed to match, unless Philadelphia comes up with a great trade package. 

So on that front, what do you do if you're Holmgren.  Stand your ground, and let Nashville feel the pain?  Sweeten the pot? 
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

SunMo

don't offer a thing.  i don't think they have the balls to match
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

Seabiscuit36

That what I just cant get a feeling for why they would match.  If they do, they're essentially going to operate the next season in a loss.  If its a lockout, they're taking a huge hit.  So then they decide to trade him the next season, and Weber becomes Rick Nash2.0
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

ice grillin you

why would nashville ever match the offer then trade him next summer....that makes no sense to me because of all the upfront money....you either match and keep him long term or you try and work out the best possible deal now...whether that be for a package of players or just take the four number ones
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

SD

Reports are starting to surface that Nashville has matched the offer

QuoteNashville, Tenn. (July 24, 2012) – In the most important hockey transaction in franchise history, Nashville Predators Chairman Tom Cigarran, President of Hockey Operations/General Manager David Poile and CEO Jeff Cogen announced today that the team has matched the 14-year, $110 million offer sheet between the Philadelphia Flyers and defenseman

Seabiscuit36

"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

SunMo

im honestly surprised, well they just killed their team for the next decade. 
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

Seabiscuit36

#205
if you go to their homepage, they misspelled Smashville.  IDIOTS http://predators.nhl.com/index.html  SMASVILLE STRONG.  I'm just hoping they got hacked.

Once NHL got the link they got it fixed.  Ah well.  The NHL is a perfect place now. 
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

PoopyfaceMcGee

I'll wait for IGY to comment before sharing an opinion.

ice grillin you

good for them

it really was a win win.....nashville deserved to have him and thats where he should be....but if the flyers would have gotten him that would have been great as well
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

SunMo

lol at nashville deserving him.

does he deserve to play on a team made up of 75% minor leaguers because they can't afford anybody else?
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

ice grillin you

in the next 14 years i bet nashville wins as many cups as the flyers....thats a long freakin time

maybe they move...maybe they sell to a gazillionaire....12 months from now is an eternity much less 14 years

the right thing happened today....even if you are a flyer fan and it doesnt feel like it at this moment
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous