Phillies Offseason Thread

[Sgt PSN]

Lock.  Him.  Up. 

[BigEd76]

and Valdez gets $930K

[Munson]

By my calculations, that brings their payroll up this year to 157 million, with Pence still needing to be signed or arb'd. ANd the "free guys" bringing that cost up to roughly 160 million. So, Pence gets 10 mil and that leaves them with about 8 mil to play around with and add whatever they need by the break?

[Sgt PSN]

Pence is under contract this year, isn't he? 

[ice grillin you]

hes arbitration eligible

the deal i dont get was offering kendrick arbitration and then singing him to a ridiculous 3.5 mil deal...talk about wasted money

[Munson]

Pence is under contract this year, isn't he?

As IGY said, he's up for arb...last year he was 6.9 mil so I'm hoping he only goes up as far as 10 mil this year.

The good news is, unlike Hamels, he's still up for arb in 2013 too so the urgency to get a long term deal done for him can still wait another year

[Rome]

$3.58M for a swingman is not outrageous at all.  It's 2 fargin percent of the total payroll of the team.

[ice grillin you]

its a lot of money for a guy whos gonna make like 12 starts this year....especially when they just signed joel piniero...who is probably better....to a minor league deal

[Rome]

No, it's really not.  I'm not arguing with you, though.  Not on something as blatantly ridiculous as this from you.  Sorry.

[PhillyPhreak54]

http://www.csnphilly.com/blog/phillies-talk/post/Agent-expects-elite-contract-for-Hamels?blockID=633252&feedID=704

While Boggs did not want to put a specific number on Hamels' value, he made it clear that he does not consider Jered Weaver's five-year, $85 million contract with the Los Angeles Angels to be a valid comparable for his client. Weaver, who is a year older than Hamels and has similar career numbers, signed the deal in August. It carries an AAV of $17 million.

"I don't think it's a parallel," Boggs said of Weaver's deal. "That contract is great for Jered. I understand it. But he took a different path and left a lot of money on the table. He came up through the Angels system and grew up in their backward. He's pitching where he grew up. That situation appeals to him. It's a similar situation to when I had Tony Gwynn.

"Without getting into specifics of what we're looking for, the Weaver situation is unique to Weaver."

So the Phils would appear to have their work cut out for them in their quest to retain Hamels longterm. General manager Ruben Amaro Jr. does not talk about the specifics of contract negotiations, but he did say he will continue to speak with Boggs and try to get a longterm deal done. Boggs said he was planning to visit with Amaro during spring training in Clearwater. The Phils have exclusive negotiating rights with Hamels until five days after the 2012 World Series, and Boggs said he hadn't considered setting any deadlines.

If Hamels stays healthy in 2012 and continues to improve – he had a career-best 2.79 ERA and finished fifth in NL Cy Young voting in 2011 – he will have plenty of suitors on the free-agent market. But his preference at this time is to get something done with the team that drafted him in 2002.

"When you're this close [to free-agency] you have mixed emotions," Boggs said. "But Cole has come through the Phillies organization, and if you asked him his preference, more than likely he'd want to remain with the Phillies. That's how it would be going into the negotiations, but every negotiation is different. Everything depends on our perceived value of what Cole is worth and what their perceived value of him is. That will dictate if a long-term deal gets done. We'll always give the Phillies every opportunity to secure him."

[Munson]

If he pitches as well this year as he did last, he deserves 20 mil a year. He could probably get 23 or so on the open market the way Lee was able to squeeze it out of the Phils.

Hopefully they offer him 20 mil a year and he takes it.

[MDS]

philly.com has a rumor that one phillie is gay and or bisexual

the answer is chase utley

[QB Eagles]

philly.com has a rumor that one phillie is gay and or bisexual

the answer is chase utley

In fact, a recent Phillies player, a renowned womanizer has been rumored to be quite interested in men.

no wonder the machine had that outfit

[MDS]

pat the bat makes sense but i dont think hes still trolling around cc anymore

hes prob back in florida or california or whatever

[Sgt PSN]

He's still locked up in Brian Wilson's basement.