Phillies Offseason Thread

[ice grillin you]

sounds like a thank you for 2008 to me....dook is done and unless injuries dictate it probably wont pitch in a single big spot next summer

[charlie]

his "thank you for 2008" ended in game 4 vs the yankees in 2009. i would rather not ever see that worthless piece of shtein pitch for the phillies ever again

[ice grillin you]

me either i just cant come up with any other reason as to why they would bring him back

[Rome]

Because three million is less than fifteen?

[MDS]

if its a clubhouse type of thing, and hes the 7th man out of the pen in the danys baez role, then whatever. whoever you get for that role isnt going to be any good so why not give it to lidge.

if they actually expect him to get people out then rube is dumber than we all thought

[charlie]

it wouldn't be a clubhouse thing... there's probably going to only be 6 guys left from 08, who were also there when he shtein the bed in 09.

bringing back lidge in any capacity is a mistake. the 6th and 7th guys out of the pen need to be able to come in for 2 innings, maybe spot start in a double header... they have that in kendrick

[Rome]

It's going to be a performance laden deal.  It's not like he's getting real money at this point.

Settle down.

[ice grillin you]

why would you put a guy on your team who sucks for any amount of money....i dont get that

[Rome]

What part of performance laden don't you understand? 

If he's good in spring training you keep him.

If he's not, you say see ya.

Not real tough stuff here, fellas.

[ice grillin you]

he done....hes horrible...he cant get people out...i dont care if he makes a million bucks....give that spot to a young guy who will cost a lot less and have some upside

[Rome]

he wasn't horrible at all last year.  he was an average major league mop up reliever.   there's no harm in giving the guy a shot to come back and prove himself.  if he's done, fine.  if he's not and can serve a purpose then you keep him.

[ice grillin you]

lidge was terrible last year...yeah his era was there but that was misleading...just look at his stuff...his fastball is gone forever...every at bat for lidge last year was six sliders most of which were balls none of which were making batters miss and an 89 mph fastball..throw in his history of elbow problems and you have to ask why would i ever want this cat

the phillies have a plethora of young relievers ready to pitch in the big leagues id much rather see one of them suck than lidge...and at least one of them could blossom....lidges ceiling is a wall outlet

[Rome]

Buddy Ryan sucks.

farg you.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

[Rome]

Just like a FB friend.  One minute he tells you happy birthday and the next he tells you to die in a fire.