Quake Rocks Japan

[SD]

I've been reading a lot about nuclear power since this happened, and I have to admit that I'm coming around to rjs' point of view* on nuclear energy.

ahem

[Rome]

Ostriches.

[Diomedes]

I've been reading a lot about nuclear power since this happened, and I have to admit that I'm coming around to rjs' point of view* on nuclear energy.

ahem

The only view you have is that global warming is a liberal elitist conspiracy designed to deprive you of the right to poison the world around you with your SUVs, lawn fertilizers, and Thomas Edison lights.  I won't be coming around bro.

[Diomedes]

Ostriches.

How?   What are the other options?  Number of deaths in nuclear power plants each year: zero.  Number in coal:  tens of thousands.  Nuclear greenhouse gases:  zero.  Etc.

If the worst that happens is a few plant workers get poisoned and die, and some people have to bivouac in shelters for a few weeks, holy christ that doesn't even compare to the damage we are suffering at the hands of coal and oil.

I see it principally as a stopgap between fossil and renewable, not as a long term answer...but I'm having a hard time seeing how you can argue against it. 

Except, like I said, for the disposal problem.

[SD]

I've been reading a lot about nuclear power since this happened, and I have to admit that I'm coming around to rjs' point of view* on nuclear energy.

ahem

The only view you have is that global warming is a liberal elitist conspiracy designed to deprive you of the right to poison the world around you with your SUVs, lawn fertilizers, and Thomas Edison lights.  I won't be coming around bro.

This isn't about Global Warming and I'm happy to see you've come around on Nuclear Energy since our conversation a few weeks ago:

Anyone want a nuclear power plant in their back yard now?

I wouldn't mind. Nuclear energy is safe. A massive quake goes off and a tiny bit of radioactive material reached the air, the rest was contained. I don't see the big deal. Good luck getting people to use less electricity. And just an FYI plants supply enough energy to meet the publics needs, if the public cuts back the energy produced goes unused. I think you'd have a stronger case if there was an energy shortage.

[Diomedes]

I haven't said I want one in my back yard.

I'm not convinced it's safe.  I have serious reservations about disposal of spent fuel, which at this point is being stored at nuclear plants far beyond their designed capacity because no one has figured out what the farg to do with it.

And yes, this is about global warming.  If burning coal and oil didn't farg our planet so badly, nuclear could take a hike. 

I am however not as worried about catastrophic meltdowns and explosions like Chernoybl.  Your comments had absolutely nothing to do with this change in my thoughts, so thank you.

[Rome]

It hasn't happened yet so it probably won't ever happen and even if it does happen it probably won't be all that bad.

Is that about it, fellas?

[rjs246]

It makes me so proud that someone from this board actually went out and read something and formed a coherent nuanced opinion about something that differed from their original thoughts on the subject. I mean, it took 7 years of posting on this board but it finally happened so that's something, right? Right?

[Diomedes]

It has happened and it really wasn't all that bad, and it's basically impossible that it will happen again, so yes, that's about it.

You prefer to chug along with deadly gas, oil and coal mining until we can make some kind of begrudging switch to renewables?

[rjs246]

It hasn't happened yet so it probably won't ever happen and even if it does happen it probably won't be all that bad.

Is that about it, fellas?

Like Dio said, it just did happen and it wasn't/isn't that bad. I'm having trouble discerning what the point is that you're trying to make.

[Diomedes]

By "it," I meant Chernobyl.

[rjs246]

Fine. I'm talking about Japan. Two of the biggest disasters in recorded history just hit with nuclear power plants at ground zero. To me, the fact that this is such a non issue is amazing.

Chernobyls basically can't happen anymore.

[Diomedes]

Exactly.

How many dead from the two events--Chernobly and fargushima--so far?

A fraction of the deaths from coal alone in a month, nevermind oil and gas.

[Rome]

It's only a nonissue if you're safe & warm 10,000 miles away.  If you lived anywhere near fargushima I doubt you'd be so blasé about this.

[rjs246]

I'll build one of those fargers in my basement and lick it's sweet outer shell.

I'll dry hump it to sleep every night and make fission babies with my suddenly even more mind-explodingly massive ballsack.