2010/11 Phillies Offseason Thread

[Don Ho]

They lost to the Giants because the Giants got hot at the right time and hit in the clutch. Who in the NL scares you next season? The Giants are one year wonders.

This X 1000

Even Giants fans have the white flags out.  My co-workers are all huge Giants fans and you should have heard them bitching in August and even mid way through September.  Worse than yours truly, phreak and igy combined belly aching about the bums.  They are the first to admit it was just a fluke with the bats and some of the best situational hitting in a NLDS/WS in years.

[ice grillin you]

If there was a free agent bat who could improve this offense, I'd agree.  But there isn't anyone out there. So if you can't substantially improve the offense, then you improve the pitching.

As for the postseason, you'd have 4 guys who are capable of starting game one of any series, so who cares if you sweep or play the max # of games?  You can run any one of them out there to start the next series on regular rest. And I guarantee you that a guy like Oswalt would even be willing to keep coming out of the pen. That dude wants to win and has already shown he's willing to do pretty much whatever it takes.

all this is true and still it doesnt make the phillies any better in the playoffs

in fact +lee and -werth is a net loss for the phillies as a team in the post season


doesnt mean the phillies cant make the world series but you can def make the argument that getting lee would be a waste

[Eagles_Legendz]

I don't know if it significantly helps their chances to win the WS, but I want to see it just so they can field the greatest rotation in baseball history next year.  The season would be farging nuts.

[Eagles_Legendz]

If there was a free agent bat who could improve this offense, I'd agree.  But there isn't anyone out there. So if you can't substantially improve the offense, then you improve the pitching.

As for the postseason, you'd have 4 guys who are capable of starting game one of any series, so who cares if you sweep or play the max # of games?  You can run any one of them out there to start the next series on regular rest. And I guarantee you that a guy like Oswalt would even be willing to keep coming out of the pen. That dude wants to win and has already shown he's willing to do pretty much whatever it takes.

all this is true and still it doesnt make the phillies any better in the playoffs

in fact +lee and -werth is a net loss for the phillies as a team in the post season

It depends on whether they can bring in someone competent to take Werth's spot, but I agree with the premise.

Still want Lee.

[MDS]

who doesnt still want him?

but hes overall good for, what 8 more wins than blanton? will they even need those?

[ice grillin you]

the one thing getting lee does is give you an incredible injury buffer...they can lose a sp for the year in spring traning and still have the best three man rotation in baseball

still a 100 million as an insurance policy is a little much

[PhillyGirl]

From NY Post sports guy Joel sherman:

At thsi moment, #Yankees have become extremely negative about landing Lee and believing that he is edging toward #Phillies

[Sgt PSN]

Doc's facebook page (which is really run by a fan) says "it's cionfirmed. R2C2"

I assume that's Roy, Roy, Cole, Cliff.

[BigEd76]

@JackCurryYES
Wonder what has taken Cliff Lee so long? There is a belief he is heading to the Phillies

[Sgt PSN]

the one thing getting lee does is give you an incredible injury buffer...they can lose a sp for the year in spring traning and still have the best three man rotation in baseball

still a 100 million as an insurance policy is a little much

It also prevents the Phils from facing him in the WS. 100mil for this lineup to not face a dominant lefty is money well spent.

[PhillyGirl]

ESPN.com jcrasnick In response to Phillies fans, this is not a leverage play on the part of the agent. Lee really loved Philly & is interested in returning

[Sgt PSN]

He should just have an hour long tv show to make this announcement.

[PhillyGirl]

 

[PhillyGirl]

side note...I'm absolutely LOVING the Yankee fan meltdown on my FB feed right about now.

[PhillyGirl]

@SI_JonHeyman: being told cliff lee decision unlikely to come tonite but may be as early as tomorrow.