2010/11 Phillies Offseason Thread

[SD]

Mike Schmidt is an icehole

probably my all time favorite player...

but still he's an icehole

[Sgt PSN]

Phils up 4-0 on FSU after 1. 

[BigEd76]

8-0 final.  The few regulars that played were gone by the 3rd

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Pretty sure this is a good indicator that they will win the World Series.

[ice grillin you]

farg was i thinking making that bet with sunny

[SunMo]

you can buy out for $17.50 right now if you want

[Munson]

[MDS]

question:

when was rube's smug-o-meter at its highest?

a. during the press conference announcing cliff lee as a phillie
b. the call he made to the cardinals gm asking if they wanted joe blanton

[Sgt PSN]

Blanton 4 Pooholes str8 ^

[PhillyPhreak54]

question:

when was rube's smug-o-meter at its highest?

a. during the press conference announcing cliff lee as a phillie
b. the call he made to the cardinals gm asking if they wanted joe blanton

C. 24 hours a day.

I bet he's the type who pitches BP to his kids and dusts them off the plate or drops a hook on them and taunts them.

[mpmcgraw]

For the last time dum dums, striking out is bad in that it prevents you from getting on base.  Beyond that an out is an out and how it came about is almost entirely negligible. 

A player who hits .280 and with 25 HR and .875 OPS but strikes out only 50 times is still not better than a guy who hits .280 with 35 home runs and a .925 OPS and 200 strike outs. 

Or in other words when looking at the final stat lines for a season strike outs mean less than nothing.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Literally less than nothing?

[ice grillin you]

yeah if theres a man on third with one out and you strikeout it LITERALLY means nothing and is def on par with a deep fly out

[rjs246]

mpm is retarded. Especially for speed guys, putting the ball in play is good policy. Striking out doesn't even give the batter a chance to utilize one of their weapons.

Beane is only looking at the after effects of an out. At the end of a season, in some dungeon basement where baseball stat nerdery takes on a god-like importance, striking out is no different than a long fly ball. During the at bat, which is all that actually matters in the real world of baseball, making contact is almost always is preferable especially if the player has speed enough to be disruptive.

Stop talking about baseball, rjs.

[ice grillin you]

i mean how friggin retarded does this sound

striking out is bad in that it prevents you from getting on base. Beyond that an out is an out

the whole argument is stupid because its all predicated on the fact that you have to assume the batter is gonna get out...well duh...IF the batter is gonna get out most times a strikeout is the same as any other out...but even then you have cases of a sac fly or advancing a runner when a strikeout isnt like other outs

i seriously cant think of a time when a strikeout isnt universally awful...the only out worse than a strikeout is the third out

there actually might be one exception...and thats when you have a pitcher up with less than two out and men on base