2010 Sixers Offseason Thread

Started by BigEd76, April 26, 2010, 09:18:42 PM

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ice grillin you

dont they have to go into at least half rebuild mode before they go into full rebuild mode

trading for a 31 year old with three years left on his deal for an expiring contract doesnt shout out rebuild to me
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SD

Once Igoudala is gone they go into full fledged rebuild mode. They'll never win shtein with him so I don't know what the wait is. Nocioni and Brand's contracts expire at the same time, can you see the future?

Drunkmasterflex

They will trade those guys once their contracts are about to expire for some guys that have years left on theirs. 

To me this trade would seem to point to the fact they are definitely going to take Turner, they got a young center in return.  Ford seems to be one of the few that thinks otherwise. 
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Nocioni has 2 years left. The team won't pick up the 3rd.
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ice grillin you

Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on June 17, 2010, 04:58:53 PM
To me this trade would seem to point to the fact they are definitely going to take Turner, they got a young center in return.  Ford seems to be one of the few that thinks otherwise. 

that might make sense if they were gonna take cousins who plays in the pivot like hawes...but ford says they want favors...who is more of a four and could play along side hawes

but besides that i still see no way this effects their draft pick...its not like they traded for bogut...maybe im wrong but i just cant believe they think that highly of hawes that he would dictate who they took in the top three...if they picked 17th or something maybe you dont take hawes position
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igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PhillyPhreak54

I don't see it affecting the draft either.

I wasn't a huge Dalembert fan, mostly because his basketball IQ is about as high as MDS', but its at the point now where you have to hold onto him because of the expiring contract.

I remember the Sixers really liked Hawes leading up to his draft so the move makes sense based on that.

Drunkmasterflex

Quote from: ice grillin you on June 17, 2010, 06:37:42 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on June 17, 2010, 04:58:53 PM
To me this trade would seem to point to the fact they are definitely going to take Turner, they got a young center in return.  Ford seems to be one of the few that thinks otherwise. 

that might make sense if they were gonna take cousins who plays in the pivot like hawes...but ford says they want favors...who is more of a four and could play along side hawes

but besides that i still see no way this effects their draft pick...its not like they traded for bogut...maybe im wrong but i just cant believe they think that highly of hawes that he would dictate who they took in the top three...if they picked 17th or something maybe you dont take hawes position

I didn't see too much of Favors but most things I have read he is projected to be a Dwight Howard type player.  That would seem like a 5 to me.  Not to mention I haven't heard any Philly media think the Sixers will take anybody but Turner. 

Dei Lynam seems to think it is a foregone conclusion and she usually has a pretty good pulse on the Sixers.  Like you said this trade really doesn't have any bearing on what they will do in the draft.
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The only way Turner isn't a Sixers is if the Wizard take him or trade the pick, or the Sixers are blown away with an offer. David Stern approaching the mic is just a formality at this point. There's no way they take Favors.

ice grillin you

Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on June 17, 2010, 07:50:46 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 17, 2010, 06:37:42 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on June 17, 2010, 04:58:53 PM
To me this trade would seem to point to the fact they are definitely going to take Turner, they got a young center in return.  Ford seems to be one of the few that thinks otherwise. 

that might make sense if they were gonna take cousins who plays in the pivot like hawes...but ford says they want favors...who is more of a four and could play along side hawes

but besides that i still see no way this effects their draft pick...its not like they traded for bogut...maybe im wrong but i just cant believe they think that highly of hawes that he would dictate who they took in the top three...if they picked 17th or something maybe you dont take hawes position

I didn't see too much of Favors but most things I have read he is projected to be a Dwight Howard type player.  That would seem like a 5 to me.  Not to mention I haven't heard any Philly media think the Sixers will take anybody but Turner. 

Dei Lynam seems to think it is a foregone conclusion and she usually has a pretty good pulse on the Sixers.  Like you said this trade really doesn't have any bearing on what they will do in the draft.

favors is much more athletic than howard...he makes howard look really stiff...favors is very long compared to howards compactness...favors is more in the mold of a bosh or stoudamire...hes a classic pf

fwiw id def rather have favors than turner so if they do go with him im all IN
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

SD

#296
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/06/17/kings-s...-for-dalembert/

QuotePhiladelphia and Detroit discussed a deal that would have sent Tayshaun Prince to Philadelphia along with Charlie Villanueva and the Pistons' seventh pick in the draft for Elton Brand and the Sixers' second pick. Collins and the Sixers, however, wanted more in return.


Pass...although getting Brand off the books is tempting

SD

guy with sources:
QuoteHawes is projected as the starter at center. Can he lose that job in camp? sure.....but Brand is gonna play PF and Hawes at center..thats the plan..Brand may get some minutes at center when they go small and depending on matchups

The deal was a "no brainer" due to:
1)Luxury Tax implications
2)Dalembert had become a locker room issue and they thought this was good value to let him go now instead of end of year.
3)Sacramento was the only team willing to pay his trade kicker and came at us aggressively about this.

Collins loves Hawes (compared him to a young Brad Miller) and thinks Nocioni is very useable. He is a scrapper. Stefanski was concerned about nocionis contract and Collins told him he will be worth it. He thinks both will earn regular playing time. They felt the young center they got here was better than any they could have gotten in the draft(cousins or favors wasnt an option after getting turner)

Now that we got another SF...carney wont be back.

Thad could still go for Aldrich..otherwise they may just try and get a guy in 2nd round like Jordan or trade Kapono for a vet center.

Toronto deal wont happen because Jarrett Jack wants to start and he wont here. Plus with Meeks and Nocioni and for now Kapono..we have enough shooters.(dont need belinelli)

Indy deal for Foster still may happen(perhaps for Kapono). dont know about the #10 pick.

chances are slightly less than thad gets moved based off getting their center of the future without him.....but they definitely would move him for aldrich.

Final question I asked was the tayshaun prince offer true......he said yes but it wasnt close. Not giving up the 2 pick without a stud (overwhelming offer that they dont plan on receiving). They didnt want villanueva either.

Thats all for now....its 100 percent turner but they will do their due diligence with cousins,favors and wes johnson in next few days.

Got the feeling Aldrich,Alabi and Jerome Jordan were still very much targets

Rome

That Detroit deal is laughable.

PhillyPhreak54

I don't want Villanueva either.

Aldrich? Aldrich who?

Why would they trade Thad?

Why aren't they shopping Iggy?