Stop and smell the roses. Thanks for the memories McNabb.

[Drunkmasterflex]

Well we will find out if a balanced offense with a heavy running game really will make a difference for McNabb.

[PhillyGirl]

Well we will find out if a balanced offense with a heavy running game really will make a difference for McNabb.

We already know it did. When the Eagles ran the ball and had a balanced offense, we saw how much better he played.

[Drunkmasterflex]

Well we will find out if a balanced offense with a heavy running game really will make a difference for McNabb.

We already know it did. When the Eagles ran the ball and had a balanced offense, we saw how much better he played.

I mean throughout the course of a whole season.  We have never seen that. 

[PhillyPhreak54]

lol at Orodenker's list.

[NC_Eagle]

Posted this in the Burn in Hell thread, just wanted to leave it here:

Peter King's take:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/04/05/mcnabb/index.html

This is what the most interesting trade in the NFL since Eric Dickerson to the Colts in 1987 came down to:

From Washington's perspective, Mike Shanahan looked at Donovan McNabb and saw John Elway. In 1995, Shanahan took the Denver coaching job and inherited a quarterback who couldn't win the big one, who'd gotten stale, who'd lost the faith of the locals in Denver to deliver a Super Bowl. Elway, then 35, went on to play four years for Shanahan and win two Super Bowls. In 2010, Shanahan takes the Washington coaching job and deals for a quarterback who couldn't win the big one, who'd gotten stale, who'd lost the faith of the locals in Philadelphia to deliver a Super Bowl. McNabb is 33. He wants to play at least four more years.

From Philadelphia's perspective, and I've written this a hundred times, Andy Reid looked at his team and saw Groundhog Day. Highly competitive every year, falling short every year, usually with some painful offensive futility involved. The vomitous, time-wasting drive at the end of the Super Bowl five years ago, the no-touchdowns-in-the-first-21-possessions frustration in the final two games against Dallas last season. And Reid has a capable young drone, Kevin Kolb, a player whose release, demeanor and progress in three years intrigues him.

I like Shanahan and GM Bruce Allen knowing they probably couldn't get the college quarterback of their dreams, Sam Bradford, in trade with St. Louis -- and going out and getting a 2010-ready passer who will upgrade their team drastically at the most important position on the field. I'll be surprised if Washington isn't at least four wins better this year, a .500 team.

Jason Campbell trade partners. I don't think he's worth much -- maybe a fifth-round pick -- but if, say, the Bills or Raiders want to add him to their mix, I'm sure they can have him. Washington would be happy to go forward with Rex Grossman as McNabb's backup if they could get a draft pick for Campbell, who I never believed was any part of Shanahan's long-term plans.

As we digest the McNabb trade, consider what happened the last time Washington coach Mike Shanahan took a 30-something quarterback under his wing and tried to win a Super Bowl with him. With John Elway, Shanahan actually won two.
John Elway    Comp-Att.    Pct.    Yards    TD    Int
Pre-Shanahan, 1983-94    3030-5384    .562    37,736    199    177
With Shanahan, 1995-98    1093-1866    .585    13,739    101    49

For the record, Elway was 50-17 in four seasons with Shanahan.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

BET:

Elway's post-Shanahan stats are more similar to McNabb's as of now.  McNabb's post-Shanahan stats will be more similar to Elway's pre-Shanahan.

[MDS]

lol at Orodenker's list.

no matter you want to shake it, thats his legacy

you can be whoever the farg mussa is and blame every single loss on coaching and defense and todd pinkston, or you can be a realist and understand that after failing so many times when the going got tough, that maybe 5 wasnt cut out for big spots. not every guy is.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

COBB OR GTFO

[charlie]

top 10 donovan moments:

10. the 2006 season: the eagles do better without him, unbelievable hostility and resentment towards jeff garcia -

false. reid/marty balanced the offense and started running the bal. then reid was out-coached by sean payton in the playoffs. schooled in the game by a coach with less experience. reid displays zero ability to adjust his game plan and wastes timeouts.

9. 08 season, week 2 @ dallas: big mnf game early in season, miserably fails on final 2 drives to win the game after dropping 37 on dallas

- big deal. its week two

8

. there are ties?: the ultimate 5 moment. unknowingly embarrassed himself, too vapid to see the truth, plays the victim and blames everyone else

- Honestly like to know how many people knew this. either way he's a fargin NFL QB and should know. Again, has nothing to do with winning or losing the game. No point.

7. nfc title game 01: lost to a better team, sure, but had a drive to win at the end and threw a pick to 75 year old aneas williams

- Bucs did their homework and had a gameplan, unlike the Eagles, who stuck to the same old gameplan. Bucs D was close to the best. But Donny threw the pick so there is all the blame? Out coached again.

6. dallas debacle part I: "we showed our youth," shutout in a do or die game

- comments mean nothing on the field. another retarded point based on something off the field.

5. dallas debacle part II: the pre-game banjo dance and plexiglass hump, mike vick steps off the prison bus and throws more td passes

- Again, his dances offend you, wow, a black man that can't dance. He should be judged for this obviously. This was an EPIC FAILURE OF COACHING. Once Westbrook came back, they abandoned what made them successful, the run. Don't even pin this on one player/

4. nfc title game 08: decided after his mid-4th qtr td pass to pimp that he had done enough and that the game was on the defense, went 4 and out on a drive to tie the game later, missing kevin curtis by 3000 feet on 4th down

- Do you remember how many balls the receivers dropped that game?! Including the one that hit Curtis in his hands. Once again, Reid puts his players in multiple 3 and outs, gasing the defense and having faith in a one sided offensive attack. result, failure.

3. nfc title game 03: knocked out of the game like a girl, becomes ricky manning jr's bitch for life, beaten by future hall of famer jake delhomme in his own house

- the hit was late and it was a cheap shot.

2. nfc title game 02: last game at the vet, becomes ronde barber's bitch for life, beaten by future hall of famer brad johnson in his own house

- Much like your #3, out coached. Pinky and Trash are our receivers.

1. superbowl xxxiv: the famous puke, 2 back breaking interceptions, treating the 2-minute drill like a wednesday afternoon stroll in the park

- The Pat's cheated and we still only lost by 3. Donovan threw over 50+ pass attempts. This scenario never wins games.

thanks for the memories, don.

[/quote]

This is some seriously funny shtein.

[reese125]

cant believe someone took these comments serious 10 times

[Don Ho]

top 10 donovan moments:

7. nfc title game 01: lost to a better team, sure, but had a drive to win at the end and threw a pick to 75 year old aneas williams

- Bucs did their homework and had a gameplan, unlike the Eagles, who stuck to the same old gameplan. Bucs D was close to the best. But Donny threw the pick so there is all the blame? Out coached again.

Aneas Williams of the Rams was so guilty of holding on that play.  He held Freddie Mitchell's jersey and it was so obvious. 

[MDS]

besides the fact that someone took my tomfoolery seriously, they did so by blaming every single 5 shortcoming on the "gameplan." whenever he losses, its someone elses fault. when he wins, it his skill and awesomeness. yup.

[Don Ho]

I will never forget the game against the Skins in 2000 at Washington when he took over the game in the 4th Q and played like a mad man.  Shaking and baking.  I remember thinking "We got a farging quarterback!".  

I am so sick of the national media and the whole "never respected by the Philadelphia fan base".  Enough.  Even the naysayers on this board were on suicide watch every time he got hurt.  I remember how we all raised the white flag when he went down in 2006.  That first game with Garcia against the Colts, we all had to be talked off the ledge.  

I wish him well, except when he plays the birds.  It's time to move on.  Whole new ball game now.  And Kolb is not Bobby Hoying.

[Seabiscuit36]

Once he turned into a pocket QB most people were done with him.  Same as Randall, you made your name playing a certain way, you change it, and you're not as dynamic, of course people wont love you as much. 

[MDS]

I will never forget the game against the Skins in 2000 at Washington

this is the inherent problem with peoples opinions of 5.

they remember stuff he did 10 years ago and 5 ankle injuries ago and think he can still do it today. hell most people were still of the belief that westbrook was a quality rb last season. it wasnt until they released him that people went, oh i guess he's too injured. IDIOTS. he was a walking corpse 2 seasons ago.

and 5 is a shell of his formal self. to sit there and think someone whose best attribute was his mobility and ability to improvise and create is still going to be effective after all the wear and tear is preposterous. 5 is now essentially a pocket passer which is the worst thing for him. im not saying hes a bad qb, not by any means, just not elite and not a guy anyone needs to cry over.