Can I get a FARG Dallas? (Game moved from 1 to 4:15)

Started by PhillyGirl, December 27, 2009, 10:18:31 PM

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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 29, 2009, 07:45:19 PM
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2009/12/28/1222304/5-burning-questions-about-eagles

Found this posted on PhilaPhans:

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1. Can the Cowboys Offense score more than 14 points in this game?

No.  In the second game played by the Eagles and the Cowboys in every season from 2000 on, the Cowboys offense has never scored more than 14 points.  The Cowboys offense has scored 13, 3, 3, 10, 7, 14, 7, 6, and 6 points over those years in the second meeting between the teams.  The Cowboys have only scored over 14 points in the second meeting of the two teams one time since 1996 - in 1999, when they got 20.  They have not scored over 21 points in the second match-up since 1994, prior to Jeffrey Lurie purchasing the Eagles.


great stat except that the difference between this year and the others is that jj was coaching the defense, not mcdermott.  not saying that mcdermott isn't doing a good job, but there's almost a 10 year body of work to grade jj on not to mention that his familiarity with the cowboys players and coaches from coaching against them for so long also puts things in his favor.  of course, i hope that trend holds true this week. 



2. Can the Cowboys Offense avoid making multiple turnovers and allowing 3 or more sacks?

No.  In the second game played by the Eagles and the Cowboys in every season from 2000 on, the Cowboys offense has turned the ball over at least 2 times excepting only 2005.  In the second game from 2000 on, the Cowboys have comitted 2, 4, 3, 2, 2, 1, 3, 3, and 5 turnovers in those games, and those turnovers have been critical to Dallas' lack of success in these games (1-8 record vs. Eagles in the second match-up).  Dallas gave up points to the Philadelphia Defense in about half of the second games: in 2001 (two interception returns), 2002 (interception return), 2003 (safety), 2008 (two fumble returns).  Dallas gave up 3, 3, 7, 3, 3, 2, 3, 4, and 4 sacks in those games.   Again the only outlier is 2005.  When you fail to score over 14 points on offense for 9 games in a row, there is a generally a reason.


this is also attributed to jj being the dc all those years. 

3. Can the Cowboys Defense hold the Eagles to less than 16 points?

No.  The Cowboys Defense has only held the Eagles to under 16 points 3 times in the second match-up since 1993.  In 1998, the Eagles were held to 9 points, in 1999 to 10 points, and in 2004 to 12 points.  In 2007, the Eagles voluntarily did not score a touchdown at the end of regulation to run out the game clock.  I would only count that as holding down the Eagles scoring if you attribute Brian Westbrook's taking a knee to the devious mind powers of Wade Phillips and the Cowboys Defense.


this is going to be huge.  reid has had a lot of success against dallas during his tenure so hopefully he keeps it going this week as well. 

4. If the Cowboys Offense cannot score over 14 points against the Eagles, and the Cowboys Defense cannot hold the Eagles to less than 16 points, can Dallas win the game?

Only if the Eagles give up points on offensive turnovers or special teams, or if Rich Kotite (Mr. 0-4 in second match-ups vs. the Cowboys) suddenly returns to coach the Eagles this week.  There is a reason that Dallas is 1-8 vs. the Eagles since 2000 and 3-11 vs. the Eagles since 1995 in the second game of the season.


this might be the single dumbest question and answer ever.   

5. Okay, but can the Cowboys win in Dallas against the Eagles in a late season game with playoff implications?

No.  The Cowboys have not won in Dallas in December against the Eagles since 1999.  They lost in 2002, 2006, 2007 at home in Dallas to the Eagles in December.  The Cowboys also blew it in December at the Eagles in 2003, 2004, and 2008.  The Cowboys blew a shot in the playoffs in the game in 2008, nearly blew the #1 seed in 2007, blew the division title in 2006, and blew the division title in 2003.  That's a lot of choking for such a short period of time.


this might be the single most awesome thing ever written.  seriously.  it gave me a boner.

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Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on December 29, 2009, 10:07:51 PM
This game is very troubling as a Eagles fan, when they got the Oline solidified it is no coincidence that they won 6 straight.  The thing that concerns me with the Dallas D is that it is playing at a high level at the right time.  Spencer has really freed up Ware. 

Dallas D is clicking on all cylinders right now.  Can't wait to see what fatty has in store for us.
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Quote from: Eagaholic on December 29, 2009, 10:21:22 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 29, 2009, 07:29:59 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 29, 2009, 05:38:52 PM
Didinger is picking the Cowboys to win because of the Jamaal Jackson injury but thought the Eagles would've won easily before that...

So I guess Jay Ratliff is Ray's league MVP?

Dude is good and all, but a difference maker like that? Nope.

Diddy on the pipe.

the way to neutralize him and Ware is 40-50 passes from a three step drop. Shouldn't be a problem.

especially for a qb like mcnabb who excels in the quick accurate timing passing game


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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 29, 2009, 07:45:19 PM
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2009/12/28/1222304/5-burning-questions-about-eagles

Found this posted on PhilaPhans:

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1. Can the Cowboys Offense score more than 14 points in this game?

No.  In the second game played by the Eagles and the Cowboys in every season from 2000 on, the Cowboys offense has never scored more than 14 points.  The Cowboys offense has scored 13, 3, 3, 10, 7, 14, 7, 6, and 6 points over those years in the second meeting between the teams.  The Cowboys have only scored over 14 points in the second meeting of the two teams one time since 1996 - in 1999, when they got 20.  They have not scored over 21 points in the second match-up since 1994, prior to Jeffrey Lurie purchasing the Eagles.



2. Can the Cowboys Offense avoid making multiple turnovers and allowing 3 or more sacks?

No.  In the second game played by the Eagles and the Cowboys in every season from 2000 on, the Cowboys offense has turned the ball over at least 2 times excepting only 2005.  In the second game from 2000 on, the Cowboys have comitted 2, 4, 3, 2, 2, 1, 3, 3, and 5 turnovers in those games, and those turnovers have been critical to Dallas' lack of success in these games (1-8 record vs. Eagles in the second match-up).  Dallas gave up points to the Philadelphia Defense in about half of the second games: in 2001 (two interception returns), 2002 (interception return), 2003 (safety), 2008 (two fumble returns).  Dallas gave up 3, 3, 7, 3, 3, 2, 3, 4, and 4 sacks in those games.   Again the only outlier is 2005.  When you fail to score over 14 points on offense for 9 games in a row, there is a generally a reason.

3. Can the Cowboys Defense hold the Eagles to less than 16 points?

No.  The Cowboys Defense has only held the Eagles to under 16 points 3 times in the second match-up since 1993.  In 1998, the Eagles were held to 9 points, in 1999 to 10 points, and in 2004 to 12 points.  In 2007, the Eagles voluntarily did not score a touchdown at the end of regulation to run out the game clock.  I would only count that as holding down the Eagles scoring if you attribute Brian Westbrook's taking a knee to the devious mind powers of Wade Phillips and the Cowboys Defense.



4. If the Cowboys Offense cannot score over 14 points against the Eagles, and the Cowboys Defense cannot hold the Eagles to less than 16 points, can Dallas win the game?

Only if the Eagles give up points on offensive turnovers or special teams, or if Rich Kotite (Mr. 0-4 in second match-ups vs. the Cowboys) suddenly returns to coach the Eagles this week.  There is a reason that Dallas is 1-8 vs. the Eagles since 2000 and 3-11 vs. the Eagles since 1995 in the second game of the season.



5. Okay, but can the Cowboys win in Dallas against the Eagles in a late season game with playoff implications?

No.  The Cowboys have not won in Dallas in December against the Eagles since 1999.  They lost in 2002, 2006, 2007 at home in Dallas to the Eagles in December.  The Cowboys also blew it in December at the Eagles in 2003, 2004, and 2008.  The Cowboys blew a shot in the playoffs in the game in 2008, nearly blew the #1 seed in 2007, blew the division title in 2006, and blew the division title in 2003.  That's a lot of choking for such a short period of time.

Tampa Bay can't win in the cold.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

mussa

Its always a good game against these chumps. I cannot wait for this. I can't expect anything like last year, but if Romo wants to finally choke and get it over with it would be nice for it to happen Sunday. Everyone is talking about how scared they are of the Cowboys D, but how good is our offense right now? Yeah they shtein the bed last week for 2 quarters, but this is a team they know and know well. I expect them to win. I expect it to be close, it will prob be another nail biter. What a better way to secure a great spot in the playoffs by kicking the crap pout of the division rivals

farg Dallas, farg them right in the ass  :evil
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PFT pointed this out, otherwise I would never have seen it


http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/assets/eagles_intro_week16.swf

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wow, they followed up that awfulness from last week with this? That was pretty funny, actually.
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Quote from: Diomedes on December 31, 2009, 10:44:12 AMDorenbos the magician and Rocca's accent crack me up

Spadaro says those are their real voices....ha

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Hey Fellas.....

  farg Dallas, and while I'm at it, I would like to thank Jeff Lurie, Andy Reid, Joe Banner, Donovan McNabb & the rest of the Philadelphia Eagles organization for the greatest decade of Eagles football that my almost 40 year old ass has ever seen!
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