2009 Phillies Offseason Thread

[MDS]

igy you fool

jihad scouted him for weeks at reading. he talked to him. he knows hes ready. he didnt just read stats and nerd minor league message boards.

[Sgt PSN]

Also, something needs to be done about Rollins. 

He is another guy like Happ and Victorino whose percieved value far exceeds their actual value.  He's in the last year of his contract and after 2 World Series appearances I think Amaro might want to shake things up big time.  This might be the way to do it.  Get a few stud left side of the infield prospects and ensure we keep this thing going well into the teens.

lol @ thinking amaro wants to "shake things up" after 2 straight ws appearances.  this team doesn't need to be shaken up but it does need some adjustments and improvements in certain areas.  the only adjustment that needs to be made regarding rollins is that they need to bring in someone who is a true leadoff hitter and drop jimmy to 2 in the batting order.

leadoff hitter
rollins
utley
choke
werth
raul
chooch/victorino
victorino/chooch
pitcher

[ice grillin you]

jimmy might be less of a two hitter than a leadoff guy

i agree with the overall look...you have this group fully together for another year...it only needs some tweaking

really you can make an argument that the only thing they need to win the world series again is a 2008 cole hamels

[Drunkmasterflex]

I don't think there is an argument if you have 08 Hamels not too much needs to be done. 

[MDS]

jimmy rollins sucks and i hate him and hes black and hes not as hot as chase utley and he doesnt walk and i like being an ass and starting internet trouble

[PhillyGirl]

really you can make an argument that the only thing they need to win the world series again is a 2008 cole hamels

This might be the most accurate statement you've EVER made on this board.

Congrats.

Dook.

[ice grillin you]

This might be the statement I've agreed with most that you've EVER made on this board.

thanks

[PhillyGirl]

oh ahaha, I see what you did there. Changing what I said to what you wanted it to.

Ohhh, you're so tricky and sneaky!

douche

[Sgt PSN]

jimmy might be less of a two hitter than a leadoff guy

i agree with the overall look...you have this group fully together for another year...it only needs some tweaking

really you can make an argument that the only thing they need to win the world series again is a 2008 cole hamels

i put him at 2 because i don't think there's anywhere else you can really put him.  far be it from me to care about athlete's feelings but i couldn't see him being dropped to the bottom of the order and not bitching about it.  nor do i think he's a bottom of the order guy.  hitting right infront of grit might do him some good. 

the major tweaking needed on this team is the bench, which practically needs to be blown up, and the middle relief in the pen.  they do need to bring in someone with a closer mentality/ability incase madson and lidge shtein the bed again next year.  or put myers in the pen for good.   

[ice grillin you]

jimmy would be dreadful as a two hitter because the two things you need to be a successful two hitter are his two biggest weaknesses...bat control and OBP...

so when you need him to get a ball to the right side of the infield to advance someone...or be patient and take a bunch of pitches to allow the leadoff guy to run hes not gonna be proficient at that

on the other side of it why would you want a low OBP guy right in front of utley and choke

the one plus of having him in the 2 hole is that hes a very good fastball hitter and the two spot tends to get an abundance of those because often the pitcher is having to deal with a speedster on first...but that doesnt come close to outweighing his engatives in that spot

[phattymatty]

is calling chase grit a joke or is this some new nickname?  because it's really awful.

[PhillyGirl]

Lidge needed work done on his knee last offseason...same as the first season he was here. He decided not to get it done and paid the price. If he has the work done, he might be back to 100% health wise....but is his mind farged up from this past season?

[ice grillin you]

is calling chase grit a joke or is this some new nickname?  because it's really awful.

one doesnt get called GRIT one is GRIT

[mpmcgraw]

It started because igy thinks Rollins is better than Utley.

[ice grillin you]

it started in a gritty little house in southern california a long long time ago...