The Defense

Eagaholic · January 14, 2011, 04:54:56 PM

I'm still waiting for Jauron the bitch slap Samuel who has a ton of talent but is afraid of his own shadow other then the occasional helmet to helmet hit. If those secondary guys had to play under Belichick's staff and they would be 100% better. At least they'd know where to be. HOF McDermott, yay. Looking forward to the return of Graham, maybe let him play some DB since he did during this past season with awesome zone dog blitzes.

ice grillin you · January 14, 2011, 11:20:22 PM

samuel was the exact same guy in new england....which is probably why bb let him go...eagles knew exactly what they were getting with him and were willing to sleep with the devil in order to get eight or nine intereptions a year

Eagaholic · January 15, 2011, 01:12:56 AM

No way Samuel was the exact same way in NE. He didn't whiff right and left and sometimes not even attempt to tackle. I think him being the highest paid DB in the league is probably why NE let him go.

Sgt PSN · January 15, 2011, 01:43:38 AM

No, I'm pretty sure it's more about Belichick not wanting divas on the team.

Eagaholic · January 15, 2011, 02:06:40 AM

Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 15, 2011, 01:43:38 AM
No, I'm pretty sure it's more about Belichick not wanting divas on the team.

If it was just that they wouldn't have franchise tagged him the year before.

PoopyfaceMcGee · January 15, 2011, 08:07:37 AM

So now we're complaining about the best player on the defense? Shut up, idiots.

mussa · January 15, 2011, 11:22:13 AM

Yeah really

MURP · January 15, 2011, 02:29:46 PM

yeah Samuel isnt the best tackler, whatever. The guy is one of only playmakers on the defense and he can lay down some huge hits. You want Patterson and Hanson back there starting? There are 64 starting CB's in the NFL and only a handful are great tacklers and great playmakers, as for the rest of them just hope you can get one or the other...

Eagaholic · January 15, 2011, 05:18:21 PM

The whole point was whether the problems were just because of a lack of player talent or was it also on the coaches. JJ was able to maintain a very solid secondary for the better part of 10 years, it can be done. I say obviously both players and coaches could have done a much better job. Their tackling toward the end of the year was atrocious, McDermott got schooled byMcCarthy and the D played with no heart.

Rome · January 15, 2011, 05:29:34 PM

Imagine for a second how much better Asante would be if his teammates got any sustained pressure on the opposing QB.

Sgt PSN · January 15, 2011, 05:58:16 PM

Quote from: Rome on January 15, 2011, 05:29:34 PM
Imagine for a second how much better Asante would be if his teammates got any sustained pressure on the opposing QB.

As much as I dog on Asante, this is a legit point.

Eagaholic · January 15, 2011, 06:05:43 PM

I think Samuel has the most pics over the last 5 years of any CB in NFL history (over a 5 yr history). No doubt he's a ball hawk and would get more pics and pds with even a marginally better rush that could get some pressure. The more important point is if they can find a way to get pressure from the front 4, then maybe we'll see as many turnovers without as much risk/reward and giving up so many TDs.

ice grillin you · January 15, 2011, 06:10:55 PM

Quote from: Rome on January 15, 2011, 05:29:34 PM
Imagine for a second how much better Asante would be if his teammates got any sustained pressure on the opposing QB.

imagine how much better hed be if he cared about anything in the world a much as he cares about himself

Rome · January 15, 2011, 06:14:41 PM

You're ridiculous. In one breath you complain about a lack of Playmakers and in the next you complain about their only one.

ice grillin you · January 15, 2011, 06:18:10 PM

why cant he be a playmaker and a complete insubordinate dickhead?

didnt know those two were mutually exclusive