Eagles 2009 Draft Thread

[PhillyPhreak54]

Shady will be in 25 as soon as Booker's cut.

I hate WRs wearing numbers in the teens.

[Sgt PSN]

Maclin is wearing #18

my dante stallworth jersey finds this news refreshing.  

[ice grillin you]

I hate WRs wearing numbers in the teens.

i literally just typed that

[Sgt PSN]

no you didn't.  you quoted it. 


i don't mind wr with teen numbers nearly as much as i can't stand place kickers and punters in college who wear 99.  everyone who supported that from the athletic director on down to the individual player should be sent on a hunting trip with dick cheney. 

[PhillyPhreak54]

I hate WRs wearing numbers in the teens.

i literally just typed that

I liked the old way. They caved to Keyshawn but still kept it strict for a few more years afterwards. College is even worse. I don't wanna see DL wearing #6 or something like that.

Maclin should be in the 80s. Pimp too.

[BigEd76]

also noticed with the new numbers that Peters got his usual #71 with Stacy Andrews switching to #76, and Klecko is back into the 60s (#68)

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

The Klecko at FB experiment is done.  Which is good, because he's more valuable as a 4th/5th DT.

[JackStraw]

The Klecko at FB experiment is done.  Which is good, because he's more valuable as a 2010 4th/5th round draft pick trade.

fixed.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

If they could get a 5th for Klecko, he'd be long gone by now.

[Zanshin]

lol @ the thought of moving Klecko for a 4th.

[Magical_Retard]

its just a built in excuse for the teams that didnt get him

teams dont spends weeks entertaining offers for the fun of it especially leading up to the draft....they have more important things to do

now the price of draft picks and his contract maybe have been to steep for anyone to pay but they definitely were shopping him

not every player in every sport thats put on the market gets moved

I don't for a second believe the Cardinals were really going to deal Boldin for a 2nd rounder. I have no doubt they could have landed him with the 1.21, so I'm guessing the Eagles thought Maclin is a better investment since he's younger, can contribute immediately on special teams, and isn't a grousing malcontent who wants $10M/year. No other team in football thought Boldin was worth whatever the Cards wanted for him.

I'm not really sure I'd deal the 1.21 for Edwards and Ocho Cinco has never officially been on the market.

True but not every team has the same needs. The Eagles are a special case in that if they just ran the ball enough, I think they have enough talent at WR to win it all. Since they (Reid) prefers to pass all the time its pretty crucial to have that WR who can demand double teams, make the tough catches, go across in the middle, still has enough in him to turn a 5 yd catch into a 70 yd TD, and most importanly improve the terrible redzone offense.

Its not about what Boldin is worth to other teams, its about how important is he to the Eagles. Had they picked up a TE, I would never advocate dealing the #21 for Boldin. The way the team is set up right now would have been ideal 5-6 seasons ago. Now its too late to get young all over again and hope it pans out.

Besides we are arguing proven player vs rookie with potential.

What's the point? They thought Maclin was a better value and Boldin is not an Eagle - end of story.

The FO is more often right than wrong. If it were up to the fans, we'd have five Pro Bowl wideouts with no offensive line, Kevin Kolb throwing the ball, and Hugh - Trot - Vincent - Taylor still on defense. They flat out know more than you. How many times do they need to prove it?

Whats the point? Are you kidding me? There is a big difference between trading for a pro bowl level stud WR like Boldin vs a rookie WR who has just as good a chance of making it as being a bust.

How your willing to give them the benefit of doubt is beyond me considering they have failed on every single WR they have ever selected besides Desean. Yeah really reassuring there. If it was up to the fans they wouldnt pass 70% of the time SO YOU WOULD NOT NEED PRO BOWL WRs.

They need to keep PROVING it till they actually win a superbowl or finally fix the offense so the WR position is a position of strength and not the achilles heel always holding them back.

[The BIGSTUD]

cole from yesterday...

The offensive line should be significantly better. Peters>>>>>Tra and Andrews is back.

I'll give you Gonzalez, but there were no proven receivers available or they would have been traded. The Giants were smitten over Edwards and they couldn't find a way to get him with 3 picks they had on the first day. Boldin obviously wasn't available, because 3 or 4 teams were hot for him and no one could strike a deal. The Bengals flat out said Chad Johnson is not get traded and to shut up about it.

cole recently.....

But for anyone to say this move prevents you from getting Boldin, Edwards or anyone you wanted in the draft, then that is just ridiculous if you think Peters can play.

The Eagles haven't gave up nearly this much in a trade for a WR in the past. Then again, when was the last time a WR as good as Boldin was available for trade?

Plus the Eagles apparently are enamored with Boldin. With both firsts this year, I think the Eagles would do a deal like that this year if only this year. Especially if the 21st pick comes and Moreno, Pettigrew are already gone.

Boldin.... Philadelphia.

It's happening.

If Arizona ever decides they want to deal Boldin then he will be an Eagle by the end of that very week. The issue is Arizona doesn't want to deal him right now.

If they put him on the block, he's as good as an Eagle. Guaranteed.

If they aren't giving up a first rounder, then they aren't getting him. That is the asking price.

I'd be much more worried about not only trading away a first rounder, and signing the player to a huge contract, PLUS having him on the most important part of your line than the Andrews signing. Andrews got a very small signing bonus. He could be let go if worst comes to worst at very little cost.

Peters is wanting to be paid as a top 5 LT I believe, plus you give up a first rounder. I say hell no to that and I take my chances in the draft or with Herremans.

Peters had an awful year. He gave up like 10 sacks or so. Sure he was good the years before that, but is it a lock he automatically reverts back to that level? Are you sure enough to give away a great draft pick?

Well, I've been consistent saying if Boldin was available he'd be an Eagle. He wasn't available. As pointed out here, it was a front and they never were going to trade him. Hell, reports came out yesterday that Arizona ignored people's calls about Boldin and never got back to teams.

As for Peters, yeah I admit I didn't want him at first. But after I broke down his season thoroughly and drew the conclusion that only about 5 or 6 sacks were his fault, and found out that he came into the season out of shape I was cool with it. I actually was cool with it in the days leading up to the move once I found out the Bengals were hot for Andre Smith and I knew the Eagles would have to trade both first rounders to land a LT. I'd be much more willing to just deal one for Peters.

[Sgt PSN]

The FO is more often right than wrong. If it were up to the fans, we'd have five Pro Bowl wideouts with no offensive line, Kevin Kolb throwing the ball, and Hugh - Trot - Vincent - Taylor still on defense. They flat out know more than you. How many times do they need to prove it?

until this front office wins a super bowl by doing things their way rather than my way, i will continue about my business with the assumption that i do in fact, know more than they do. 

carry on. 

[ice grillin you]

it was just a matter of time before kenzo pulled out the familiar tune of the homer "they know way more than you do"...its a little diddy from way back in like 1999 when banner first pulled his swirly lollipop on everyone

banner is a better business man than i am

and andy reid is a better coach than i am

but they def dont know more than me when it comes to player evaluation and how the roster is managed

not counting retards like cole and munson (who dont know anything about anything) and blind homers like kenzinger (who are semmingly intelligent but have never really watched football the way you need to because of their blind faith in the front office to do evrything right) any of use know as much as reid when it comes to player personnel

i cant speak for everyone but i know for a fact ive been more right than reid on draft picks and free agents...not saying reid is always wrong and im always right but my hit % on players would easily be higher than his if i had my own scouting department and access to the film he does

[Feva]

Stealing Ed's thunder... The Eagles have assigned numbers to the new players.

Maclin is wearing #18 and not #19, so I will not be acquiring his jersey.  Macho Harris will be wearing #35 and not #31, so Die-Hard's jersey is still an Al Harris joint.  Ellis Hobbs gets #37 (in a row?).  Ingram gets a great TE # in 88.  Shady will rock #29.

Mack REALLY should be rocking #19.  Just seems to fit him more.  Gibson needs to bow down and give that shtein up.