It's swell to dream.....say Reid gets canned....

Started by PhillyPhanInDC, November 10, 2008, 12:04:55 AM

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Seabiscuit36

Hey SD, speaking of HS, what ever happened to your cousin who played for Neshamity i think?
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

SD_Eagle5

He played a little bit of college ball but he didn't want to do his school work. He's still trying to get his shtein together. I can only lecture him for so long.

ice grillin you

laws really is a joke...but we all knew that when they drafted him...forget a new coach whos gonna be the new gm...because thats what i anticipate happens this off season...they arent gonna fire reid with three years left on his deal but a happy medium would be to take away his gm responsibilites
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

shorebird


SD_Eagle5

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 10, 2008, 09:07:49 PM
laws really is a joke...but we all knew that when they drafted him...forget a new coach whos gonna be the new gm...because thats what i anticipate happens this off season...they arent gonna fire reid with three years left on his deal but a happy medium would be to take away his gm responsibilites
They have a GM:

ice grillin you

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PhillyPhanInDC

I think it is entirely possible that at some point this season, this team completely quits on Reid, it's obvious that he has already lost the team from any sort of motivational standpoint, but they are still playing hard at times. I'm thinking once they get under .500, which is only a matter of time, the wheels come off. At that point, if the fat man doesn't resign, Lurie will can him. Lurie's gotta know that he has fourth best franchise in a four team division at this point, and the gap is widening all the time at this point, and not just in terms of the standings. I gotta believe at least 10% of the shtein he talks regarding trying to deliver a champion. A sub-500 season ends it for Reid imo.

So if Reid is gone, and they bring in a whole new staff, I think it's full on rebuild mode, this team doesn't have core of young guys who give the team an abundance of talent, or any type of identity.
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done.""  R.I.P George.

reese125

Al Michaels: Wow...they are going to wait till the 2 min warning?

Madden: Yeah...McNabb is tired....he's tired.

It irrelevant to the well-deserved Reid bashing but Im sorry... I just cant over those comments after a 7yd scramble.

The BIGSTUD

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If the team misses the playoffs again I think there's a chance Reid will be fired. We all know Lurie is in love with him, but at the same time what else is he in love with? Publicity, money, being #1 in Philadelphia amongst the 4 major teams. The Eagles are quickly losing ground in town right now. They are #2 behind the Phillies without question and who knows how far they will drop if the Sixers and Flyers get going.

I think there is a chance that Lurie chooses his love of all things money, pride, and attention over his love for Reid.
Calling it right on the $ since day one.
Just pointing laughing, and living it up while watching the Miami Heat stink it up.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: reese125 on November 10, 2008, 09:33:59 PM
Al Michaels: Wow...they are going to wait till the 2 min warning?

Madden: Yeah...McNabb is tired....he's tired.

It irrelevant to the well-deserved Reid bashing but Im sorry... I just cant over those comments after a 7yd scramble.

Of all the coaching/playing mistakes last night, this was the one that pissed me off the most.  It's just incredible that they couldn't get another play off in 20 seconds.  Then, they had two straight runs dialed up, both to the right side behind a backup OG.

The BIGSTUD

I was actually ok with them not getting a play in. 2 minutes is plenty of time to score from where their position was on the field. The way the defense was playing, if you give the Giants the ball back with even 30 seconds left, they will at least get a field goal. The defense couldn't stop anybody. The Eagles still had a timeout too I believe.

The challenges and the 4th and 1 call were much worse IMO.
Calling it right on the $ since day one.
Just pointing laughing, and living it up while watching the Miami Heat stink it up.

Magical_Retard

Quote from: reese125 on November 10, 2008, 09:33:59 PM
Al Michaels: Wow...they are going to wait till the 2 min warning?

Madden: Yeah...McNabb is tired....he's tired.

It irrelevant to the well-deserved Reid bashing but Im sorry... I just cant over those comments after a 7yd scramble.


that and they can never call the play in on time.

even on a hurry up offense it takes at least 15-20 seconds to set up.
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Homer: Is it BATMAN!!??
Marge: No hes a scientist
Homer: Batman is a scientist.
Marge: Its not BATMAN!

SD_Eagle5

Nothing we don't already know but this chick sums it up nicely:

Link

QuoteAshley Fox: Eagles need action, not Reid's hollow words
By Ashley Fox

Inquirer NFL columnist

Until the Eagles actually score a go-ahead touchdown to win a close game in the final couple of minutes, I'm done believing anything Andy Reid has to say. It's all just meaningless words now, non-explanations, catchphrases, and taking responsibility for things that don't make any sense.
Apparently, after losing yet another NFC East game by single digits, Reid thinks the Eagles are just fine. He knows what he's got. There's plenty of time left. He's got the pieces he needs.

The only addendum to Reid's normal postmortem yesterday after a 36-31 loss to the New York Giants was this: "We all need to step it up here now another notch down the stretch."

Seems when you "lose three games by three feet," you have to make sure that you work things out and get that taken care of. At least that's what Reid said.

Whatever.

In the battle of potential vs. production, I'm taking production right now. And the Eagles' production is this: five wins, four losses, zero wins in the NFC East, resulting in a spot in the divisional cellar right next to the Dallas Cowboys.

That road to the NFC championship? It doesn't run through Philadelphia anymore. In case those inside the protective gates of the NovaCare Complex haven't realized it, that road hasn't run through here in a while.

While Reid chose to focus on how the coaches could do things "schematically" to put the players in better positions, the reality is not pretty.

The Eagles are 0-3 against their biggest rivals and 0-4 this season in close games. They can't gain 1 measly yard when they have to have it. They can't get a big stop when they need one. They can't stop the run. They're getting manhandled at the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. Their coach is calling desperate challenges.

And now, in the latest troubling trend that has developed over the last two weeks, the Eagles can't run the football. Brian Westbrook has had back-to-back insignificant performances. Blame the scheme, or blame the player, but the Eagles' most dangerous weapon has been a nonfactor two weeks in a row.

But everything is A-OK. Just listen to the head coach, who knows more than anyone else in town because, you know, he's the head coach and he's been the head coach for the last 10 years. It's going to be fine because Reid knows what he's got. It's no time to panic. There's plenty of time left.

"I know what I have as far as coaches and players, and I know what we have to do," Reid said yesterday. "And we're going to go do it."

Sure you are. Maybe against the 1-8 Cincinnati Bengals. But what about against the Giants again? Or the taterskins again? Or the Cowboys again?

The Eagles' five wins this season have been against teams that, as of Monday, were 18-26. Their four losses have been against teams that are 24-12. The meaning in that is simple: The Eagles can beat the less-competitive teams, but they're toast against the winners.

That means the Birds are in the middle of the pack, at best. And really, is that any better than being, say, St. Louis? Not here.

While he did make the players report for work yesterday - something that hasn't happened on a Monday in a while - Reid seemed to have determined, after what had to be a sleepless night in his office, that the Eagles' glass is half-full.

Pointing to the positives in the game, Reid said that he was happy that "when the Giants were in a passing situation" - and boy, they didn't need to be often - the Eagles' defense was "able to pressure Eli, hit Eli and sack Eli." The truth is, the Giants rumbled right over the Eagles, gaining 219 rushing yards so that Eli Manning didn't have to be perfect with the passing game. Sure, the Eagles pressured Manning from time to time, but he had plenty of time to step into his throws, and the reality is the Eagles sacked him once and he had 31 pass attempts.

Reid also said that the Eagles' offensive line did "an excellent job of protecting the quarterback." True enough. But where was the run blocking? Keeping the quarterback upright is great, but how about providing Westbrook a few holes? He gained 26 yards on 13 carries. And when the Eagles really needed 1 yard late in the game, Westbrook couldn't get it because he had nowhere to go.

But at least McNabb was on his feet.

Everything else Reid said was pretty much a blur about taking responsibility for this and putting guys in a better position to do that and some overused blather about doing something or other schematically. It's now the scheme, and the execution of the scheme. How insightful.

Until the Eagles get a meaningful win - and Cincinnati, Baltimore and Arizona don't count - I'm not buying any of it. Show me, don't tell me. If you can't do that, don't bother with anything else.


pinoyboy2pt0

Pass.  Pass. Pass. PUNT.  No pro bowl WR's.  Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  Retarded special teams.  Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  "I've got to do a better job."  Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  Running game shines for 3 plays. Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  No adjustments anywhere.  Pass.  Pass. Pass. PUNT.  (repeat)

shorebird

Ashley Fox couldn't have said one single word in that article any better, unless she wanted to use a little profanity.