Westbrook fires agent Fletcher Smith

Started by SD_Eagle5, July 17, 2008, 01:42:43 PM

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rjs246

Quote from: ice grillin you on July 23, 2008, 09:04:11 AM
...payback is a mother farger...who knows if hell get it...

We all know he won't get it.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

Seabiscuit36

if the pft report is real, and he had other agents dropping out of the running because they didnt think he'd get it, yeah, not exactly thinking clearly.  I love westbrook, but the reality is he's 29 years old, has had a major knee injury in college, and multiple other injuries since coming into the league.  The decline of RB's at the age of 30 is very highly documented.  He needs to get "Caked" off with a bonus, but he's gotta realize he's already being paid as a top 5 rb. 
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

Rome

Comparing a 25 year-old defensive tackle's deal to an almost 30 year-old running back's potential deal is always a good idea.

ice grillin you

westbrook will be better and infintely more valuable in the next two years than luis castillo and thats all that matters....yous act like westbrook is looking to get paid till hes 38...he wont be in his thirtys until after NEXT season starts
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Seabiscuit36

Your hatred of the front office jades everything you see.  He should be given some bonus money, but 30mill is insane
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

SunMo

why is 30 million insane, if you agree he should be paid, why does the amount matter?  they are a shteinload under the cap, spend the farging money
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

ice grillin you

you just referenced pft as a valid source of information and have the gall to say my bias jades me?...does it jade me when i say lito shouldnt get a penny more from the front office right now?...or does my hatred of the front office only count in certain situations


nothing ive said is untrue and it all makes sense...you just dont understand numbers in the nfl...im not even saying he should get 30...ive never said that...but going for it is not even close to insane...take a look around the nfl and look at the numbers...when the dolalrs other players are getting change then perhaps you can say its crazy for one of the best players in the nfl to get 30 million guaranteed over three years but right now its just not

if westbrook does nothing with his deal for the next three years he will make upwards of 15 mil...so if they tear that up and give him 30 hes getting only 15 more than his current deals asks for...a five million dollar raise is not insane for a player of his caliber
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Rome

The Eagles should just give every player what he asks for and be done with it.

Especially Scott Young.

rjs246

Does anyone have an update on Luis Castillo's contract situation?
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

Seabiscuit36

 I love how everyone ignores the fact that he's already a top 5 paid RB in the league. I think thats about right when you have guys like LT, Peterson, LJ, ahead of him.  The NFL bothers the shtein out of me that every player thinks if they have a good year, they deserve a new contract.  I know shtein isnt guaranteed, but the bonus is. 
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

ice grillin you

it should bother you if every player in the league does that..it shouldnt be insane to you for the most valuable player in the league to want big money

duece mccalister got 13 mil in guarantes four years ago

edgerrin james made 25 mil over the first three years of his deal from the god damn cardinals of all teams

again im not saying they should automatically give him 30...but depending on how ugly it gets westbrook is one player with which you can get close to the 30 or give him the 30 and it not look like youre caving in or overpaying...hes worth it in so many ways


btw where are the numbers that westbrook is a top 5 paid nfl rb...im guessing you mean just in base salary (ie not guaranteed)



i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Seabiscuit36

Quote from: ice grillin you on July 23, 2008, 09:39:49 AM
it should bother you if every player in the league does that..it shouldnt be insane to you for the most valuable player in the league to want big money

duece mccalister got 13 mil in guarantes four years ago

edgerrin james made 25 mil over the first three years of his deal from the god damn cardinals of all teams

again im not saying they should automatically give him 30...but depending on how ugly it gets westbrook is one player with which you can get close to the 30 or give him the 30 and it not look like youre caving in or overpaying...hes worth it in so many ways


btw where are the numbers that westbrook is a top 5 paid nfl rb...im guessing you mean just in base salary (ie not guaranteed)

yeah, base including previous Bonus.  I know what your saying, and his agent really F'd up his previous contract from the big payday standpoint.  I've been watching Westbrook from college when he would come down to UD and put up 300yrds a game easy, the guy is amazing, im just thinking his body is going to decline rapidly after 31, if they get all the bonus up front fine.
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

reese125

Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on July 23, 2008, 09:27:49 AM
I love how everyone ignores the fact that he's already a top 5 paid RB in the league. I think thats about right when you have guys like LT, Peterson, LJ, ahead of him.  The NFL bothers the shtein out of me that every player thinks if they have a good year, they deserve a new contract.  I know shtein isnt guaranteed, but the bonus is. 


So if you out-perform all your peers in your company by very huge margin, and you made your company twice the amount of dollars the previous year, you dont deserve a big-time raise in salary? There should not be a double-standard here

If the NFL is a business..treat it like one


ice grillin you

Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on July 23, 2008, 09:42:40 AM
yeah, base including previous Bonus.  I know what your saying, and his agent really F'd up his previous contract from the big payday standpoint.  I've been watching Westbrook from college when he would come down to UD and put up 300yrds a game easy, the guy is amazing, im just thinking his body is going to decline rapidly after 31, if they get all the bonus up front fine.


but he will will turn 31 during the season of the last year of this deal...i could see the age argument if he was asking for five years...this contract will END when hes 32 years and three months old...and like i said to ff even if hes done after next season  youre on the hook for 5-10 million (depending on how they prorate the money)...i mean hell jevon kearse is on the books for 4 mil this year
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Wingspan

I love when people say "just tear up the current contract and give the man a new one"

I am pretty sure you can not do that. I think there are rules surround how much money you can give when renegotiating a contract.


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