Jack Ikegwuonu, Philadelphia Eagle

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rjs246

Do you even have any idea what Ritalin is?
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

Seabiscuit36

i wish benzedrine was still legal, i would be 170 lbs again. 
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

Don Ho

Quote from: Munson on November 14, 2008, 06:09:52 PM
Never seen anyone snort an adderrall...i have seen someone crush up and snort a zanex. Or roll it in with weed into a blunt.


My friends are going places.


Picture doesn't prove anything either...he needs to get busted on a drug test or he could just say he didn't do it.

my wife has some zanex laying around.  i might just have to resort to this during the Bengals game.
"Well where does Jack Lord live, or Don Ho?  That's got to be a nice neighborhood"  Jack Singer(Nicholas Cage) in Honeymoon in Vegas.

Munson

Apparently it works quite well.
Especially when taken with beer.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Cerevant

Quote from: rjs246 on November 15, 2008, 12:42:53 PM
Do you even have any idea what Ritalin is?

Do you?

Methylphenidate (Ritalin)
Adderall

Schedule II controlled substances.

Do you?
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

Diomedes

There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

shorebird

Ritalin, although a stimulant for adults, has the opposite effect on children, for some medical reason unknown to me. Personally, I'm against any kind of mood altering drugs for youngsters. Your making them addicts before they are even out of grade school, and they end up being the kind of adults that run for the medicine cabinet when they get up in the morning in order to be able to function during the day without a mental breakdown.


rjs246

#82
Quote from: Cerevant on November 16, 2008, 07:35:50 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 15, 2008, 12:42:53 PM
Do you even have any idea what Ritalin is?

Do you?

Methylphenidate (Ritalin)
Adderall

Schedule II controlled substances.

Do you?

Yes, I do. But next time I'll provide Wikipedia links to prove it...

Giving it to kids is retarded. Your argument is that there MUST be an imbalance if it calm children down, and that doesn't make a farging lick of sense. People managed to get by for 1000s of years without medicating their children for being hyperactive. It's insanity.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

shorebird

It's unnatural. Kids are naturally hyperactive, some more than others. Teachers have had disciplinary powers taken away from them, so now, they want to drug kids to keep them in line.

Diomedes

#84
Modern parents drive me nuts.  They're so self obsessed, and so terminally wounded by the traumas of a normal lucky American life, that they think they can make up for whatever bullshtein still haunts them by treating their children like tiny gods.  Coddle them in every way, smother them in attention, let them make decisions about where they go, what they eat,  etc. from like age two on, drug them to get them to behave nicely so the parents don't have to discipline them, etc.

My brood is going to suffer and like it.
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

rjs246

Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

Susquehanna Birder

Quote from: shorebird on November 16, 2008, 09:08:10 AM
It's unnatural. Kids are naturally hyperactive, some more than others. Teachers have had disciplinary powers taken away from them, so now, they want to drug kids to keep them in line.

Of course, you're erroneously lumping ADD in with ADHD. The two often go together, but many people mistakenly think that ADD equals hyperactivity. And it's also a misconception that proper pharmacological treatment for ADD turns kids into dull little robots, much less addicts.

I agree that the medication is probably abused in some cases, but it is also widely used properly and successfully.

Cerevant

#87
Quote from: shorebird on November 16, 2008, 08:09:46 AM
Ritalin, although a stimulant for adults, has the opposite effect on children, for some medical reason unknown to me.

False.  Ritalin is also prescribed to adults who have ADD/ADHD.  It doesn't just go away...

Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on November 16, 2008, 11:46:21 AM
Of course, you're erroneously lumping ADD in with ADHD. The two often go together, but many people mistakenly think that ADD equals hyperactivity. And it's also a misconception that proper pharmacological treatment for ADD turns kids into dull little robots, much less addicts.

I agree that the medication is probably abused in some cases, but it is also widely used properly and successfully.

True.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

Seabiscuit36

Quote from: Don Ho on November 16, 2008, 03:43:05 AM
Quote from: Munson on November 14, 2008, 06:09:52 PM
Never seen anyone snort an adderrall...i have seen someone crush up and snort a zanex. Or roll it in with weed into a blunt.


My friends are going places.


Picture doesn't prove anything either...he needs to get busted on a drug test or he could just say he didn't do it.

my wife has some zanex laying around.  i might just have to resort to this during the Bengals game.
snort it, then smoke some Maui Wowi and you'll wake up in few hours
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

shorebird

Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on November 16, 2008, 11:46:21 AM
Quote from: shorebird on November 16, 2008, 09:08:10 AM
It's unnatural. Kids are naturally hyperactive, some more than others. Teachers have had disciplinary powers taken away from them, so now, they want to drug kids to keep them in line.

Of course, you're erroneously lumping ADD in with ADHD. The two often go together, but many people mistakenly think that ADD equals hyperactivity. And it's also a misconception that proper pharmacological treatment for ADD turns kids into dull little robots, much less addicts.

I agree that the medication is probably abused in some cases, but it is also widely used properly and successfully.

We will have to agree to disagree on that one. Tons of kids that go to counciling for poor grades simply because they don't pay attention are prescribed Ritalin. ADD, ADHD, whatever, it's a name slapped on a condition that can be avoided by good home training. Parents think they can let kids do whatever they want when they are little, and they grow up with a lack of respect and discipline, not knowing how to act in public when they don't get the same type of attention they do at home. So then, they drug them.

Quote from: Diomedes on November 16, 2008, 09:13:34 AM
Coddle them in every way, smother them in attention, let them make decisions about where they go, what they eat,  etc. from like age two on, drug them to get them to behave nicely so the parents don't have to discipline them, etc.

Amen to that.

Quote from: Cerevant on November 16, 2008, 11:48:26 AM
Quote from: shorebird on November 16, 2008, 08:09:46 AM
Ritalin, although a stimulant for adults, has the opposite effect on children, for some medical reason unknown to me.

False.  Ritalin is also prescribed to adults who have ADD/ADHD.  It doesn't just go away...

I don't agree, it's a Methylphenidate, a stimulant.

QuoteMethylphenidate (MPH) is a prescription stimulant commonly used to treat Attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder, or ADHD. It is also one of the primary drugs used to treat the daytime drowsiness symptoms of narcolepsy and chronic fatigue syndrome

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