Lito Sheppard - He Once Was An Eagle

[Wingspan]

So, it's clear that the overblown anti-Banner feelings just can't be put aside to actually look at this situation from a "what's best for the 2008 Eagles?" perspective.  That's not a surprise at all.

The hilarious thing is that I hate Joe Banner.  He's a complete douche.  I also love Brian Dawkins.  Yet, because I can look at this situation without emotion, I'm a money-grubbing management lover.  Right.

Banner should talk about banner, and business stuff.

Dawkins should talk about dawkins. And not call out his teammates and employer.

Lito is the smartest one here, he hasnt said anything...which is exactly the way it should be

To add even more proof, I completely agree with Wingspan.  In case you morons (IGY and SunMo, specifically) don't know this already, I think Wingspan is a fagwad(!) and I disagree with him on the regular.

You finally made me laugh.

[ice grillin you]

banner should not be talking period to the press EVER about on the field or in the lockeroom matters....

Neither should Dawkins.

Banner should talk about banner, and business stuff.

Dawkins should talk about dawkins. And not call out his teammates and employer.

Lito is the smartest one here, he hasnt said anything...which is exactly the way it should be

i think dawkins as the team leader is talking for lito and perhaps for the team as a whole

As the team leader he should be looking for a way to mend the situation...not create more bad blood over it.

im sure he has...from all accounts he talks to andy quite a bit...i think this is the frustration of the team as a whole coming out...and their leader is trying to get the situation resolved...lito isnt playing here this year so get something done...the eagles painted themselves into this corner and dawk is basically saying its not good for the team and if we wanna be successful this year stop jerking a player around and get him moved


but thats neither here nor there and im not even arguing as to whether dawk should have spoken up or not...but the fact is players and coaches talk to the media every day in every sport...its how the business works....on the other hand salary cap "experts" never call out team leaders and thats the major problem here....banner is not a people person and shouldnt be talking to people much less dawkins...and forget the battle hes gonna lose in the locker room banner shouldnt do it beause hes also gonna get murdered in the public opinion polls as well...choose your battles wisely and going after dawk is not wise

[SD_Eagle5]

this is where youre confused...banner should not be talking period to the press EVER about on the field or in the lockeroom matters....the analogy he made with new englands wr's is a perfect example of why he shouldnt...

I agree 100% with this, Banner should stick to balance sheets.

I also agree with what he said, but because it came from his mouth and not Andy or Tom's it holds no bearing. Banner should really watch what he says to the press, if everyday fans know he's not much more than a CPA who just happens to work for the Eagles then you know damn well the players realize this too.

[rjs246]

i love it


Brian Dawkins = bad guy

Joe Banner = good guy

No they're both idiots and neither of them should be talking about this to the media. Dawkins should have the ability and the wherewithall to just kep his yap shut about something that doesn't involve him, but apparently he's just a dumb jock like every other profesional athlete. Banner is a corporate money whore assnerd who shouldn't be allowed out of his mother's basement. Neither one should ever be in a position to speak to a member of the media ever. But here we are. Hooray for bullshtein!

[Phanatic]

It's farging May. Who cares who said what.

They should get on the field and play the damn game and stop with the soap opera bull shtein and shame on whomever stirs the pot to keep this days of our lives as the world fargs crap going...

[ice grillin you]

i love it


Brian Dawkins = bad guy

Joe Banner = good guy

Dawkins should have the ability and the wherewithall to just kep his yap shut about something that doesn't involve him

it absolutely involves dawk...its his team and he sees it being hurt by all this so he feels that he has some repsonsibilty in seeing that his locker room and the players in it are conducive to being successful on the field this year...and he clearly feels as tho this isnt going to work and that the team needs to get its ass in order and move lito sooner rather than later...i suspect hes gone to andy more than once to tell him this and once the draft passed without lito being moved he felt as tho he needed to step out and go public

[rjs246]

Why? What positive thing could possibly come of that? Seriously. What good would that ever do the team to 'go public' with SOMEONE ELSE'S contract dispute? It's idiocy. If Dawkins feels like its effecting the team, fine. Talk to the people in charge not the farging media. Give me a break.

[SunMo]

the fact that anybody finds anything wrong with what Dawkins does still baffles me.


oh my goodness, he's standing up for his friend and teammate!  what a farging icehole!

[ice grillin you]

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Why? What positive thing could possibly come of that? Seriously. What good would that ever do the team to 'go public' with SOMEONE ELSE'S contract dispute?

he didnt say one thing about the contract...he didnt say pay lito more or that the team is cheap...hes saying on the field and in the locker room its not going to work...and if anyone would know it would be brian dawkins


basically your argument is that no player should ever speak to the media again unless its about an actual game...and while that notion is ridiculously unrealistic its also something that cant be debated

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

the fact that anybody finds anything wrong with what Dawkins does still baffles me.


oh my goodness, he's standing up for his friend and teammate!  what a farging icehole!

He wasn't even doing that.  He didn't say who was at fault or how the team should support Lito.  He only said that Lito's going to be unhappy.  That doesn't do anything constructive.

By the way, Asante Samuel is Dawkins' teammate also.

[rjs246]

basically your argument is that no player should ever speak to the media again unless its about an actual game...and while that notion is ridiculously unrealistic its also something that cant be debated

That's exactly what my argument is and I will never ever stop hoping for it to happen.

[Rome]

So, it's clear that the overblown anti-Banner feelings just can't be put aside to actually look at this situation from a "what's best for the 2008 Eagles?" perspective.  That's not a surprise at all.

The hilarious thing is that I hate Joe Banner.  He's a complete douche.  I also love Brian Dawkins.  Yet, because I can look at this situation without emotion, I'm a money-grubbing management lover.  Right.

Banner should talk about banner, and business stuff.

Dawkins should talk about dawkins. And not call out his teammates and employer.

Lito is the smartest one here, he hasnt said anything...which is exactly the way it should be

To add even more proof, I completely agree with Wingspan.  In case you morons (IGY and SunMo, specifically) don't know this already, I think Wingspan is a fagwad(!) and I disagree with him on the regular.

You finally made me laugh.

hahaha  - times two.

[ice grillin you]

By the way, Asante Samuel is Dawkins' teammate also.

asante samuel isnt going to be a problem on the team...hes irrelevant in all this and hes also not one of dawks best friends


one of the major problems the team made and its why i believe dawk is most upset is the way they have jerked lito in all this...naming samuel the starter in litos spot the day they signed him...then basically letting lito know he was gone and not a part of the team anymore...now asking him to come back and take part in mini camps n shtein and try and presumably try and steal his best friend on the teams job...

its the god complex thing again...thinking they can turn shtein into gold without a problem...just like they thought they could trade lito for exactly what they wanted as if no team was on the other side of the deal...they need to give it up and deal him for a 3rd round pick and get this over with

[Magical_Retard]

i dont think its anything big. you guys are overblowing it.

dawksins said what he said which i dont find to be wrong. we all know lito is unhappy and thus it will probably not work. dawkins is telling us what we all know. if anything this just proves they will not keep him unless andy has a talk with lito like he did with trotter.

banner is doing what he does. FO mouthpiece trying to paint everything rosy. he shouldnt be the one but really what difference does it make if he says it or andy. same BS.

[methdeez]

three good receivers is EXACTLY like three good corners

Totally, I mean teams run 3, 4 and 5 corners our on the field at the same time, all the time!
How do you GAMEPLAN for that?

Answer: ....you can't