Lito Sheppard - He Once Was An Eagle

Started by Father Demon, April 16, 2008, 02:16:40 PM

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Dillen

That's way too much. Lito and Boldin have relatively the same value. I know they're both in different situations. Even though the Eagles aren't teh awesome at drafting, that price is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too steep.

Rome

what if it meant keeping him out of dallas?  still too steep a price?

The BIGSTUD

I think if anywhere, he goes to Washington, but still the same premise. Keep him out of the NFC East.

The highest I'd go for Boldin is a 2nd and Lito. I wouldn't offer 19 for Boldin. I would offer 19 for Chad or Roy Williams. They are simply better players.

If it came down to 19 and Lito for Boldin, I'd just take Devin Thomas and 19, and trade Lito for more picks and load up on our other weaknesses.
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its hilarious how much people are overvaluing lito
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Rome

johnson isn't going anywhere.  marvin lewis would blow him on national television before trading him at this point.

and what's the point of trading lito for more draft picks?  they already have 11 of them as it is.

Dillen

Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2008, 04:14:45 PM
its hilarious how much people are overvaluing lito
Who is "you people"? To be extremely conservative, say Lito is worth a 3rd which is probably bullshtein but just go with it for the sake of argument. You're trading a 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th for Anquan Boldin?

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Quote from: Rome on April 23, 2008, 04:15:22 PM
johnson isn't going anywhere.  marvin lewis would blow him on national television before trading him at this point.

and what's the point of trading lito for more draft picks?  they already have 11 of them as it is.

True, they have a lot of picks already, but things can be done about that. Trade up in later rounds, trade them for 09 picks, etc.

If they took Devin Thomas at 19 and traded Lito for picks, they might be able to walk out of this draft with Devin Thomas, Kenny Phillips as their first two selections.

To me that is a no brainer.
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pretty sure i never said anything about trading for anquan boldin
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Father Demon

Quote from: Dillen on April 23, 2008, 04:03:52 PM
Lito and Boldin have relatively the same value.

As a value across the average of the NFL, then maybe this is correct.  But when looking at the micro, Boldin has alot more value in Philly than Lito.  We have 2 starting CB's, and no #1 WR.  Other teams know this, which weakens Lito's value to the Eagles, and ups their value to a WR.

All said, I'd be happy as hell to keep Lito (I know, not gonna happen), and grabbing Thomas at 19.
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Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2008, 04:22:13 PM
pretty sure i never said anything about trading for anquan boldin
Then why did you bring up how Lito is overvalued. No one said anything about his value.

Quote from: Father Demon on April 23, 2008, 04:26:16 PM
But when looking at the micro, Boldin has alot more value in Philly than Lito. 
Like I said, I know they're different situations. Both are around 27. Both hurt a lot. 2 Pro Bowls each (I think). Both near the best of their position when healthy. Throwing out 3 high picks + Lito for the other guy is retarded, even though he is a better fit.

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Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2008, 04:14:45 PM
its hilarious how much people are overvaluing lito

The thing is the guy is still under contract and a very good player.  Why give him up cheaply if you don't have to? At this point a high first would be fair value.  I just don't like the idea of using him to trade up.  If they could get a high second for him then they could use their second to move up if they are so inclined.
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Quote from: Father Demon on April 23, 2008, 04:26:16 PM
Quote from: Dillen on April 23, 2008, 04:03:52 PM
Lito and Boldin have relatively the same value.
We have 2 starting CB's, and no #1 WR.  Other teams know this, which weakens Lito's value to the Eagles, and ups their value to a WR.

yup the eagles have essentially sent lito home...their leverage in dealing him is nill...the only hope of getting much value for him is if they can somehow build enough excitement in him to where two teams bid against each other to raise the price


otherwise a low second rounder is the best you can hope for...but it seems to me his value is more like a 3rd and a 5th maybe??


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Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 23, 2008, 04:32:38 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2008, 04:14:45 PM
its hilarious how much people are overvaluing lito

The thing is the guy is still under contract and a very good player.  Why give him up cheaply if you don't have to? At this point a high first would be fair value.  I just don't like the idea of using him to trade up.  If they could get a high second for him then they could use their second to move up if they are so inclined.

They don't have to. The Bengals aren't dealing Chad, we don't have to deal Lito. The argument that he'll make the locker room miserable is BS. He'll show up and earn a pay check when all is said and done.
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Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2008, 04:37:02 PM
but it seems to me his value is more like a 3rd and a 5th maybe??

Can you really put a price on 7 int's in the last 7 games vs Dallas?  

ice grillin you

Quote from: Dillen on April 23, 2008, 04:29:01 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2008, 04:22:13 PM
pretty sure i never said anything about trading for anquan boldin
Then why did you bring up how Lito is overvalued. No one said anything about his value.


i mean people are talking getting a one for him or a great player in return....or a really high two and a five...i could be totally wrong but i just dont see it happening
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

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