Discuss: Concrete Ballin'

[Cerevant]

Fixed a bug with the stats caused by the printing bit I added.
Added stat rank to the user list.  Sorry, can't sort by it yet.

[Diomedes]

There are a lot of shut outs, a lot of extremely high football scores, and a lot of extremely high scoring shut outs.

I think the weight given to defense (and possibly STs) needs to be increased strongly.

Or something.

Also, I'm rocking a streak of 9, bitches.   

And thanks for changing the thread name.  Y'all may think I'm a princess, but it was a good idea and you can all suck a fleshpop.

[hbionic]

I think it was stated before....but if I train 1 vs training 5 at one shot...does it increase my odds of moving up that stat?

[Diomedes]

no

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I think it was stated before....but if I train 1 vs training 5 at one shot...does it increase my odds of moving up that stat?

No, but before Cerevant fixed the bug, you'd get to multiply your increase if you rolled a 96 or higher on an early roll.

That's fixed now, so there's no advantage to rolling more than once.


Still, I think it's too "Socialist" a game.  Only a 5% chance to increase stats once you get to certain point is a bit overdone, but the flip-side is it seems that teams with even a slight statistical advantage are much, much more likely to win a game.... so, I don't know.

[hbionic]

I agree, it keeps the playing field level...so I'm for it...it will be cool once we all reach generally around the same stats....'cause lord knows there's no way I'm ever going to hit that elusive 5% in my rolls.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Wow, this is incredibly lucky:

You begin training your Speed.
[xxx/53/0]
[xxx/100/2]
[xxx/34/0]
[xxx/24/0]
[xxx/97/5]
You have gained 7 Speed by training it 5 times.

[hbionic]

You begin training your Power.
[xxx/3/0]
[xxx/6/0]


I sucky dude!

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Yes you are!

nitz kick off, down at the Orton Robo-Ponies 15
First down and 10 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 15
Run for 4 yards
Orton Robo-Ponies injury on the play! [118/120]
Second down and 6 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 19
Run for 2 yards
Third down and 4 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 21
Run for 6 yards for a first down!
First down and 10 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 27
Intercepted! Recovered at the the Orton Robo-Ponies 38
First down and 10 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 38
Run for 2 yards
Second down and 8 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 36
Pass for -9 yards
Third down and 17 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 45
Run for 2 yards
Fourth down and 15 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 43
The nitz punt it away down at the Orton Robo-Ponies 20
First down and 10 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 20
Run for 1 yards
Second down and 9 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 21
Pass for 20 yards for a first down!
Orton Robo-Ponies injury on the play! [117/120]
First down and 10 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 41
Run for -4 yards
Second down and 14 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 37
Run for -1 yards
Third down and 15 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 36
Run for 2 yards
Fourth down and 13 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 38
The Orton Robo-Ponies punt it away down at the nitz 26
Orton Robo-Ponies injury on the play! [116/120]
First down and 10 to go from the nitz 26
Pass for 1 yards
Second down and 9 to go from the nitz 27
Pass for -1 yards
Third down and 10 to go from the nitz 26
Run for -1 yards
Fourth down and 11 to go from the nitz 25
The nitz punt it away down at the Orton Robo-Ponies 20
First down and 10 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 20
Run for 5 yards
Second down and 5 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 25
Run for 3 yards
Third down and 2 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 28
Pass for 14 yards for a first down!
First down and 10 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 42
Run for 7 yards
Second down and 3 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 49
Run for -1 yards
Third down and 4 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 48
Run for 1 yards
Fourth down and 3 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 49
The Orton Robo-Ponies punt it away down at the nitz 20
First down and 10 to go from the nitz 20
Pass for -6 yards
Second down and 16 to go from the nitz 14
Pass for 1 yards
Third down and 15 to go from the nitz 15
Run for 6 yards
Fourth down and 9 to go from the nitz 21
The nitz punt it away down at the Orton Robo-Ponies 24
First down and 10 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 24
Run for 7 yards
Second down and 3 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 31
Intercepted! Recovered at the the Orton Robo-Ponies 40
First down and 10 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 40
Run broken for a big gain of 22 yards for a first down!
Orton Robo-Ponies injury on the play! [115/120]
First down and 10 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 18
Pass for 13 yards for a first down!
First down and 5 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 5
Pass for -3 yards
Second down and 8 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 8
Run for 4 yards
Orton Robo-Ponies injury on the play! [114/120]
Third down and 4 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 4
Run for 3 yards
The field goal attempt is good!
nitz 3
Orton Robo-Ponies 0
nitz kick off, down at the Orton Robo-Ponies 20
First down and 10 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 20
Pass for 16 yards for a first down!
First down and 10 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 36
Pass for 1 yards
Second down and 9 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 37
Run for 2 yards
Third down and 7 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 39
Pass for 19 yards for a first down!
First down and 10 to go from the nitz 42
Intercepted! Recovered at the the nitz 36
First down and 10 to go from the nitz 36
Pass for 22 yards for a first down!
First down and 10 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 42
Pass for 15 yards for a first down!
First down and 10 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 27
Pass for 8 yards
Second down and 2 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 19
Run broken for a big gain of 23 yards for a touchdown!
nitz 10
Orton Robo-Ponies 0
nitz kick off, down at the Orton Robo-Ponies 18
First down and 10 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 18
Run for -1 yards
Second down and 11 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 17
Pass for 4 yards
Third down and 7 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 21
Intercepted! Recovered at the the Orton Robo-Ponies 30
First down and 10 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 30
Run for -3 yards
Second down and 13 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 33
Pass for -12 yards
Third down and 25 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 45
Run broken for a big gain of 20 yards
The field goal attempt is no good!
First down and 10 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 25
Run for -2 yards
Second down and 12 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 23
Pass for -3 yards
Third down and 15 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 20
Run for 2 yards
Fourth down and 13 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 22
The Orton Robo-Ponies punt it away down at the Orton Robo-Ponies 44
Orton Robo-Ponies injury on the play! [113/120]
First down and 10 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 44
Run for 2 yards
Orton Robo-Ponies injury on the play! [112/120]
Second down and 8 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 42
Run for 1 yards
Third down and 7 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 41
Pass for 18 yards for a first down!
First down and 10 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 23
Pass for -2 yards
Second down and 12 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 25
Pass for 30 yards for a touchdown!
nitz 17
Orton Robo-Ponies 0
nitz kick off, down at the Orton Robo-Ponies 20
First down and 10 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 20
Pass for -2 yards
Second down and 12 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 18
Pass for 7 yards
Third down and 5 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 25
Run for 6 yards for a first down!
First down and 10 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 31
Run for 0 yards
Second down and 10 to go from the Orton Robo-Ponies 31
Run for 2 yards
The nitz win!
Final Score:
nitz 17
Orton Robo-Ponies 0
Stat Difference: 48

[Cerevant]

There are a lot of shut outs, a lot of extremely high football scores, and a lot of extremely high scoring shut outs.

I think the weight given to defense (and possibly STs) needs to be increased strongly.

Or something.

Also, I'm rocking a streak of 9, bitches.  

And thanks for changing the thread name.  Y'all may think I'm a princess, but it was a good idea and you can all suck a fleshpop.

The problem is that defense is causing the shut-outs (lots of INTs). 

Can people post the stat difference when they post their scores?  I'll code up something to capture the game logs, but until I do it will help me balance the game.

I think the real problem is that people are gaining in stats too quickly.  I either need to nerf the effect of the stats, or slow down the gains.

I think FC stays "fun" because you feel like you are doing something, when in reality you are (as my wife and I joked) just running to "push the button".  The very visible progress itself is the reward, while the effect (attacking) is almost an afterthought.

I think a football game would be more interesting if everyone had about the same number of stat points, with the distribution making it interesting.  Further I think play-calling is almost a necessity to make the games more interesting than just the final score.  I think this is where game money or some other resource might come in: allowing you to use a special at a critical point in the game.

Keep playing and keep giving feedback - creating a balanced rule set is not easy.  Even FC is pretty polarized (you either win or lose against an opponent, it is very rarely close).  If you keep playing, I'll keep working on it.

[Geowhizzer]

I don't remember the answer:  What are OTAs?  And how are they important?

[Diomedes]

Not developed yet.

[phattymatty]

this was stopped in the 3rd quarter...

The learycm's team forfeit due to injuries.
Final Score:
Poopies? 91
learycm's team 0

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I've put up 98 but have yet to break 100.

I lost to hbionic this morning 3-0.  The risk/reward really isn't high enough to challenge people that you might actually lose to.

[phattymatty]

so i guess if you lose, but don't initiate the game, you don't lose your streak?

because you beat me yesterday but i still rock a 10 streak.