March Bandness IV

[SunMo]

it's just such a dumb argument from a guy who probably read it from a side panel in vibe magazine 10 years ago...not worth the argument


oh you mean, musicians used music before them and built on top of that?  really?  SHOCKING!

[Diomedes]

when the white guys do it, it's stealing? 

when the black guys do it, it's artistic license?

[SunMo]

when black guys do it, it's "sampling"

[ice grillin you]

just a small taste...but they have dozens and odzens of uncredited stuff they stole


A list of some of the songs Zep stole from other artists:

"Babe I'm Gonna Leave You" - A folk song by Anne Bredon, this was originally credited as "traditional, arranged by Jimmy Page," then "words and music by Jimmy Page," and then, following legal action, "Bredon/Page/Plant."
"Black Mountain Side" - uncredited version of a traditional folk tune previously recorded by Bert Jansch.
"Bring It On Home" - the first section is an uncredited cover of the Willie Dixon tune (as performed by the imposter Sonny Boy Williamson).
"Communication Breakdown" - apparently derived from Eddie Cochran's "Nervous Breakdown."
"Custard Pie" - uncredited cover of Bukka White's "Shake 'Em On Down," with lyrics from Sleepy John Estes's "Drop Down Daddy."
"Dazed And Confused" - uncredited cover of the Jake Holmes song (see The Above Ground Sound Of Jake Holmes).
"Hats Off To (Roy) Harper" - uncredited version of Bukka White's "Shake 'Em On Down."
"How Many More Times" - Part one is an uncredited cover of the Howlin' Wolf song (available on numerous compilations). Part two is an uncredited cover of Albert King's "The Hunter."
"In My Time Of Dying" - uncredited cover of the traditional song (as heard on Bob Dylan's debut).
"The Lemon Song" - uncredited cover of Howlin' Wolf's "Killing Floor" - Wolf's publisher sued Zeppelin in the early 70s and settled out of court.
"Moby Dick" - written and first recorded by Sleepy John Estes under the title "The Girl I Love," and later covered by Bobby Parker.
"Nobody's Fault But Mine" - uncredited cover of the Blind Willie Johnson blues.
"Since I've Been Lovin' You" - lyrics are the same as Moby Grape's "Never," though the music isn't similar.
"Stairway To Heaven" - the main guitar line is apparently from "Taurus" by Spirit.
"White Summer" - uncredited cover of Davey Graham's "She Moved Through The Fair."
"Whole Lotta Love" - lyrics are from the Willie Dixon blues "You Need Love."

[Diomedes]

I care

[ice grillin you]

when the white guys do it, it's stealing? 

when the black guys do it, it's artistic license?

when white guys steal black music its goes uncredited or in a shady deal they strip a negros rights of his own music

when black guys sample other blacks music the white record company execs (after "aquiring" ownership of the original artists music) force them to pay for it

dolla dolla bill yall and the brown man loses again

really im not trying to get into all this on mmh tournament thread...i dont care if led zepplin wins and i dont care is zepplin is your favorite group....but you gotta call them as they are

[SunMo]

poor black men invented and created everything...we get it

[ice grillin you]

not everything...just good music

[Phanatic]

Actually Zep stole from everyone equally not just "brown eyed handsome men"(name that reference).  Stairway's guitar line was copped to the note from a band that opened for them among others. I thought this would be the one thread that would be Igy free...

The 70's Bracket:

1.  Pink Floyd Love Sabbath but Dark Side and Animals are more the awesome!
16. Black Sabbath

8.  Aerosmith
9.  Queen Aerosmith is the most overrated band of all time...

5.  The Who Picking the Who over Ted is by no means dissing anyone.
12. Ted Nugent

4.  Rolling Stones
13.  Deep Purple

6.  Eric Clapton
11. ZZ Top Not so much I like ZZ but irrationaly dislike Clapton...

3.  AC/DC No contest
14.  Alice Cooper

7.  Lynyrd Skynyrd
10. KISS Great live show

2.  Led Zeppelin Still better musicians despite the stealing.
15. REO Speedwagon

[Wingspan]

1.  Pink Floyd
16. Black Sabbath

8.  Aerosmith
9.  Queen

5.  The Who
12. Ted Nugent

4.  Rolling Stones
13.  Deep Purple

6.  Eric Clapton
11. ZZ Top

3.  AC/DC
14.  Alice Cooper

7.  Lynyrd Skynyrd
10. KISS

2.  Led Zeppelin
15. REO Speedwagon

[Zanshin]

The 70's Bracket:

1.  Pink Floyd

8.  Aerosmith

5.  The Who

4.  Rolling Stones

6.  Eric Clapton

3.  AC/DC

7.  Lynyrd Skynyrd

2.  Led Zeppelin

[NGM]

1.  Pink Floyd
16. Black Sabbath

8.  Aerosmith
9.  Queen

5.  The Who
12. Ted Nugent

4.  Rolling Stones
13.  Deep Purple

6.  Eric Clapton
11. ZZ Top

3.  AC/DC
14.  Alice Cooper

7.  Lynyrd Skynyrd
10. KISS

2.  Led Zeppelin
15. REO Speedwagon

[Yeti]

1.  Pink Floyd

8.  Aerosmith

12. Ted Nugent

4.  Rolling Stones

6.  Eric Clapton

3.  AC/DC

10. KISS

2.  Led Zeppelin

[Father Demon]

70's bracket winners:

Pink Floyd
Queen
The Who
Rolling Stones
Eric Clapton
AC/DC
KISS (decided by a coin flip)
Led Zeppelin


The 80's bracket:

1.  Ozzy Osbourne
16. Ratt

8.  Bon Jovi
9.  Scorpions

5.  U2
12. George Thorogood

4.  Guns-n-Roses
13.  Billy Squire

6.  Motley Crue
11. Judas Priest

3.  Def Leppard
14.  Black Crowes

7.  Stevie Ray Vaughan
10. Whitesnake

2.  Van Halen
15. Poison


To run through Monday

[Father Demon]

1.  Ozzy Osbourne
16. Ratt

8.  Bon Jovi
9.  Scorpions

5.  U2
12. George Thorogood

4.  Guns-n-Roses - I'll vote here all the way
13.  Billy Squire

6.  Motley Crue Tough one.  I grew up with more Priest, although the Crue reminds me of the Philippines.  Check one for Dr. Feelgood.
11. Judas Priest

3.  Def Leppard - sugar coated fluff band that was never very good
14.  Black Crowes

7.  Stevie Ray Vaughan
10. Whitesnake - joke.

2.  Van Halen
15. Poison