The Eagles Offseason Thread(all aboard the Brian Finneran bandwagon)

[Sgt PSN]

I wouldn't mind Stallworth back on the team either, if the Pats cut him. He wanted to stay in Philly in principle but then there was that thing about him being in the league substance abuse program that was leaked, and also that Rosenhaus didn't tell him that the Eagles basically matched the Pat's deal until after he signed. Maybe too much behind the scenes shtein.

I wouldn't mind that either but I don't think Stallworth is anywhere near any of the 4 big name recievers being thrown out there.  The offense definitely ran better with him here, but I don't think he brings nearly as much as Fitz, Roy or CJ would.  IMO, Stallworth is kind of a poor man's Randy Moss and I would take any of those 3 over Moss. 

[QB Eagles]

My Wishlist (In order of likelyhood)

1.  Williams
2.  CJ
3.  Moss
4.  Fitz

Hmm, I'd put the odds at something like:

Williams 5%
Fitzgerald 3%
Johnson 1%
Moss 1%
Hackett/Stallworth caliber player 75%
Not even a Hackett/Stallworth caliber player 15%

[Eagaholic]

I wouldn't mind Stallworth back on the team either, if the Pats cut him. He wanted to stay in Philly in principle but then there was that thing about him being in the league substance abuse program that was leaked, and also that Rosenhaus didn't tell him that the Eagles basically matched the Pat's deal until after he signed. Maybe too much behind the scenes shtein.

I wouldn't mind that either but I don't think Stallworth is anywhere near any of the 4 big name recievers being thrown out there.  The offense definitely ran better with him here, but I don't think he brings nearly as much as Fitz, Roy or CJ would.  IMO, Stallworth is kind of a poor man's Randy Moss and I would take any of those 3 over Moss. 

I agree. I was thinking Stallworth was like a rich man's Pinkston, but he's probably closer to a poor man's Moss, although he does go over the middle better than either.

[Sgt PSN]

That's the one thing Stallworth does do with some consistancy and the big thing I do like about him.  Eventhough he's not a real big guy, he doesn't seem to be afraid to go anywhere on the field and go after a ball. 

[Sgt PSN]

My Wishlist (In order of likelyhood)

1.  Williams
2.  CJ
3.  Moss
4.  Fitz

Hmm, I'd put the odds at something like:

Williams 5%
Fitzgerald 3%
Johnson 1%
Moss 1%
Hackett/Stallworth caliber player 75%
Not even a Hackett/Stallworth caliber player 15%

I've got CJ at #2 because everyone knows he's pissed and wants out so that doesn't give Cincy as much leverage when trying to negotiate a trade (if they do).  The less a player is available for, the more likely the Eagles are to go after him.  Williams is the clear #1 simply because Matt Millen is the GM and would probably trade Roy for Reno Mahe and a 5th round draft pick. 

I put Fitz at the bottom because he's not screaming to get out of Az and is willing to rework his contract.  Add in the fact that he's so young and the Cards could get a king's ransom for him on the trade block, which is something the Eagles absolutely will not give up.

I'd much rather have Stallworth over Hackett.  Both could be considered injury prone but Stallworth is by far the better reciever overall imo.  Plus, I've still got my Stallworth jersey. 

[ice grillin you]

roy williams (if hes even available) is the best of the lot...i give him a slight edge over fitzgerald cause he much better at stretching the field and is only a little bit smaller...he can really do it all

[mussa]

please get one of the lot...i don't care just someone better

[Dillen]

roy williams (if hes even available) is the best of the lot...i give him a slight edge over fitzgerald cause he much better at stretching the field and is only a little bit smaller...he can really do it all

Williams is a very good player who should get to multiple pro bowls. Fitzgerald is a potential Hall of Famer. I see no possible way you could say Williams is better. He's faster, but that's about the only thing he has over Fitz. Not leaping ability, not even close to the same hands.

And better stretching the field? Each have played 4 years:
Williams 62 catches of 20+ yards, 13 catches of 40+ yards
Fitzgerald 72 catches of 20+ yards, 11 catches of 40+ yards

There's no way Roy is "much better" at stretching the field. If I had to pick what wide receiver that Kolb starts his career with, it's Fitzgerald easily. Way more consistent. Much better hands.


Although obviously, any Eagle fan would be a farging retard to turn either down.

[QB Eagles]

I've got CJ at #2 because everyone knows he's pissed and wants out so that doesn't give Cincy as much leverage when trying to negotiate a trade (if they do).  The less a player is available for, the more likely the Eagles are to go after him.  Williams is the clear #1 simply because Matt Millen is the GM and would probably trade Roy for Reno Mahe and a 5th round draft pick.

Detroit is entertaining offers for Williams, so that automatically makes him the most likely to be traded. He's still likely to remain a Lion though.

Fitzgerald needs a big contract restructure to stay in Arizona, and according to latest reports the Eagles are interested in him. I think that makes him second-most likely. Again, he will probably remain a Cardinal though.

I think Fitz is more likely than Johnson because 1) Marvin Lewis has been all over the place flat-out saying there's no way in hell he'll trade Johnson no matter how upset he is, 2) Johnson won't hold out, 3) Johnson's been acting a little too TO-like lately for the Eagles FO's tastes, 4) the Skins badly want Johnson and would easily outbid the Eagles for him, even with their salary cap difficulty.

Moss will probably be franchised, and if he's not, he's going to ask for a record-breaking contract from someone. The Eagles won't pay that, especially for a known head case like Moss.

I'd much rather have Stallworth over Hackett.  Both could be considered injury prone but Stallworth is by far the better reciever overall imo.  Plus, I've still got my Stallworth jersey. 

I agree with that, I just put them together as examples of the B list talent that the Eagles are much more likely to end up with.

[ice grillin you]

roy williams (if hes even available) is the best of the lot...i give him a slight edge over fitzgerald cause he much better at stretching the field and is only a little bit smaller...he can really do it all

Williams is a very good player who should get to multiple pro bowls. Fitzgerald is a potential Hall of Famer. I see no possible way you could say Williams is better. He's faster, but that's about the only thing he has over Fitz. Not leaping ability, not even close to the same hands.

And better stretching the field? Each have played 4 years:
Williams 62 catches of 20+ yards, 13 catches of 40+ yards
Fitzgerald 72 catches of 20+ yards, 11 catches of 40+ yards

There's no way Roy is "much better" at stretching the field. If I had to pick what wide receiver that Kolb starts his career with, it's Fitzgerald easily. Way more consistent. Much better hands.

yes he is...hes a burner...fitzgerald is not...20 plus yard catches are great but its not exactly stretching the field...williams has like four or five td catches of more than 50 yards...fitzgerald has none...thats strecthing the field...my only concern with williams is his injuries...hes played five less games than fitzgerald in the same amount of seasons....but his monster play ability in my book gives him the slight edge in who id rather have...like you said tho cant go wrong with either

[Rome]

Put Fitzgerald and a healthy McNabb together with Westbrook and you can start polishing the trophy case.

That's why it will never happen, though.  We don't have that sort of luck.

[Munson]

McNabb/Westbrook/Fitzgerald/Curtis/Healthy LJ Smith



And I'd assume in 3 WR sets they'd bring Reggie in and put Curtis in the slot where he's most effective.


Why can't the Eagles just stop being cheap iceholes and do it.

[BigEd76]

Sielski article on Dawk's twin daughters and how they almost died

[The BIGSTUD]

roy williams (if hes even available) is the best of the lot...i give him a slight edge over fitzgerald cause he much better at stretching the field and is only a little bit smaller...he can really do it all

Williams is a very good player who should get to multiple pro bowls. Fitzgerald is a potential Hall of Famer. I see no possible way you could say Williams is better. He's faster, but that's about the only thing he has over Fitz. Not leaping ability, not even close to the same hands.

And better stretching the field? Each have played 4 years:
Williams 62 catches of 20+ yards, 13 catches of 40+ yards
Fitzgerald 72 catches of 20+ yards, 11 catches of 40+ yards

There's no way Roy is "much better" at stretching the field. If I had to pick what wide receiver that Kolb starts his career with, it's Fitzgerald easily. Way more consistent. Much better hands.


Although obviously, any Eagle fan would be a farging retard to turn either down.

I agree with just about everything you said. Roy Williams has more speed and maybe more of a breakaway threat, but Fitzgerald doesn't put up insane numbers every year out of luck. He has skills. He isn't a burner, but uses his body extremely well, has amazing hands, and just finds ways to get open. He isn't going to turn a 5 yard slant into a 70 yard TD, but he will go up and make big plays, catch the ball, and break some tackles.

[Dillen]

farg.