07/08 Phillies Offseason Thread

[Rome]

I don't understand his rationale.  If making the most money you can possibly squeeze out of a franchise that can't compete with the likes of the Yankees is your aim, then by all means he should hold out for that sort of money.  If your aim is to make a king's ransom yet still allow the team some flexibility to get better, then he should take a lower amount.

Like I said earlier, I think the Phillies are willing to go huge with Howard in terms of money.  But again, how many tens of millions of dollars is enough for these guys?  And what happens if Howard gets that sort of dough?  How are Utley & Rollins going to react?  Are they going to want to tear their contracts up?

And then there's the Cole Hamels factor.  If he's going to be an undisputed #1 ace for the next ten years like we all think he is, isn't he going to want to break the bank too?

The Phillies simply can't go nuts with Howard and pay him whatever he's looking for.  They just can't.

[ice grillin you]

forget the ridiculous numbers he puts up
and the incredible amounts of fans he puts in the seats
the spotlight he gets shined on the franchise
merchandise he sells
ect ect ect......

the phillies owe howard big time for keeping him in the minors for so long...he lost years of service with that crap...he shouldnt take a "lower amount" from them...they owe him not the other way around

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Also, he deserves reparations for slavery.

[Rome]

Wrong.

Howard deserves his own slaves.  White womenses!

[Wingspan]

the phillies owe howard big time for keeping him in the minors for so long...he lost years of service with that crap...he shouldnt take a "lower amount" from them...they owe him not the other way around

That's retarded.

Howard spent less than 3 full seasons in the minors before being called up. Which is actually quite fast for the phils. He went to college late, and wasnt drafted until he was 22.

He didn't really explode in the minors until 2003 (first year in Clearwater). And he was rushed though AA and AAA and full time in 04. The only mistep the phils took was sending him back in beginning 2005, but they had Thome playing and they had him playing every day in AAA rather than sitting on the bench.

[MDS]

I'm going to Phillies College Media Day. I don't know what it is but it sounds fun. I think I get to ask questions to Ruben Amaro. I really should start out with "why are you such a fleshpop?"

[SD_Eagle5]

call him a beaner

[ice grillin you]

the phillies owe howard big time for keeping him in the minors for so long...he lost years of service with that crap...he shouldnt take a "lower amount" from them...they owe him not the other way around

That's retarded.

Howard spent less than 3 full seasons in the minors before being called up. Which is actually quite fast for the phils. He went to college late, and wasnt drafted until he was 22.

He didn't really explode in the minors until 2003 (first year in Clearwater). And he was rushed though AA and AAA and full time in 04. The only mistep the phils took was sending him back in beginning 2005, but they had Thome playing and they had him playing every day in AAA rather than sitting on the bench.

he should have been a full time player from the start of the 2004 season and maybe even 2003...i dont care of it was one day or six months bottom line is they kept him down longer than they should have so that they could hold back his service years for as long as humanly possible...the phillies front office is pathetic and ryan howard should milk them for all they are worth...under no circumstances should he take less than he can get as romey suggested

[BigEd76]

Barajas heads back to Toronto....1 year + option for 2009

[Wingspan]

the phillies owe howard big time for keeping him in the minors for so long...he lost years of service with that crap...he shouldnt take a "lower amount" from them...they owe him not the other way around

That's retarded.

Howard spent less than 3 full seasons in the minors before being called up. Which is actually quite fast for the phils. He went to college late, and wasnt drafted until he was 22.

He didn't really explode in the minors until 2003 (first year in Clearwater). And he was rushed though AA and AAA and full time in 04. The only mistep the phils took was sending him back in beginning 2005, but they had Thome playing and they had him playing every day in AAA rather than sitting on the bench.

he should have been a full time player from the start of the 2004 season and maybe even 2003...i dont care of it was one day or six months bottom line is they kept him down longer than they should have so that they could hold back his service years for as long as humanly possible...the phillies front office is pathetic and ryan howard should milk them for all they are worth...under no circumstances should he take less than he can get as romey suggested

You didn't even know who he was in 2003...and neither did the phils. They signed Thome that offseason.

You want him called up from single A?

They held back utley (and hamels) to keep the service years delayed. But not howard. Howard was rushed once he had that monster season in clearwater in 2003.

[ice grillin you]

it doesnt matter what i knew...it matters what howard knew and thought...im not talking from my point of view im talking from a negotiating persepctive bwtn howard and the club..and the fact is howard was kept down longer than he should have been and he wants his for that happening of course thats in addition to his major league numbers so far on and off he field

[reese125]

Howard had no control of being sent up from the minors...that argument to getting paid more is null and void

You can bet the major argument and or negotiating factor is that he's a star amongst stars and he wants to be paid like one. If everyone else can break contracts and get more $ because of their status...so can I.

I dont blame him one bit. Pay up bitches

[ice grillin you]

shockingly youre wrong again...howard being kept down longer than he wanted is a factor in him reaching free agency later in his career...hes gonna want to be paid for that...is it the primary factory in the negotiations of course not...is it A factor in them trying to break the bank...you bet your life

[Rome]

Barajas heads back to Toronto....1 year + option for 2009

$1.2M for Rod Barajas = laugh out loud hysterical.

[Rome]

I wish someone would "insult" me by offering me $100M to play a kid's game.