07/08 Phillies Offseason Thread

[SunMo]

between 80 and 90 million

[Wingspan]

So, is the phils big acquisition still on crutches?

sigh...

[MDS]

thats a killer contract for rowand. phillies would have been stupid to match it.

[Sgt PSN]

Losing Rowand hurts bad enough.  Losing him to a divisional is a kick to the nuts.  

And to add insult to injury, Ed Wade pulled of a deal to bring Miguel Tejada to Houston.  WTF?  

[SunMo]

thats a killer contract for rowand. phillies would have been stupid to match it.

i don't disagree with that...but they still need to get someone to replace those numbers.

they still only won 89 games last year and needed a huge collapse from the Mets to win the division...


Sarge...the Giants aren't in the Phillies division you moron

[Wingspan]

Losing Rowand hurts bad enough.  Losing him to a divisional is a kick to the nuts.  

Rowand is gonna look great catching passes from Eli Manning.

And to add insult to injury, Ed Wade pulled of a deal to bring Miguel Tejada to Houston.  WTF? 

Stand Pat (actually tejada is not as good as he once was and i would stick with rollins over tejada anyway...that said...the phils are run by idiots.)

[ice grillin you]

thats a killer contract for rowand. phillies would have been stupid to match it.

if you care about money its smart...if you care about winning its stupid

you cant always say how every philly team would be stupid to over pay for players then complain that they dont win championships

im not saying they would win the world series with aaron rowand but they 100% for sure are not going to win it without him (or a suitable replacement)

[SD_Eagle5]

Rowand's contract is probably ridiculous and I wouldn't mind losing him so much if the money the bums didn't pay him was used to sign someone else. The whole 'there was no one else out there' excuse should be making the rounds shortly

[Wingspan]

As it stands right now, the phils lineup is this:

Rollins
Victorino
Utley
Howard
Burrell
Dobbs/Helms
Werth/Roberson
Ruiz/Coste

and defensively you have
C- Ruiz
1B Howard
2B Utley
SS Rollins
3B Platoon Helms/Dobbs
RF Platoon Werth/Roberson
CF Victorino
LF Burrell (w/ Werth/Roberson coming in 8th and 9th innings)

God help this team if ANYONE goes on the DL

[SunMo]

God help this team anyway with that lineup....Chris Roberson getting regular at bats?  awful

[Rome]

The Giants will be ruing that contract for years to come.

I like Rowand as much as anyone but five years and ninety million goddamn dollars for him is retarded.  And yeah, I know it's not MY MONEY they're using, but for God's sake, when second-tier players like Rowand start getting contracts like that, it's bad for the entire sport and it makes signing anyone of merit that much more difficult.

[ice grillin you]

you do know romey that next year there are going to be five more rowands getting even bigger contracts...and that its been like this since free agency started...if youre a team like the phillies you can pay for rowand and go for a title in the next five years or you can pay for werth and roberson or some other scrub that costs a lot less and hope the mets collapse again


Burrell
Dobbs/Helms
Werth/Roberson
Ruiz/Coste

yikes

[reese125]

then when he gets that kind of loot and shteins the bed the following year--like most Philly athletes, everyone bitches.

[ice grillin you]

people are going to bitch if someone shteins the bed no matter what...id rather bitch about aaron rowand sucking than chris roberson or jayson werth

[SunMo]

actually, the money from the inital report is wrong...it's only 60 mil over 5 years, 12 per year


so that means the Phils must not have come off their insistence for 3 years, because i can't believe he wouldn't have stayed for 4 years.

assuming that's true, they offered Lowell a longer contract than Rowand...stupid.