With the First Pick in the 2008 NFL Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles Select...

[rjs246]

I would always want the Eagles to win. I can (and have) pontificate about how they 'should' lose out for a better draft pick, but the difference between 16 and 19 is minimal and if it means one more win for the team I root for, that's one more day that I'm happy about something inconsequential. And that's all I care about. The draft is fun to plan for and follow, but tanking a game to grab a slightly better spot in what amounts to a luck-of-the-draw scenario like the draft just isn't worth it.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I would always want the Eagles to win. I can (and have) pontificate about how they 'should' lose out for a better draft pick, but the difference between 16 and 19 is minimal and if it means one more win for the team I root for, that's one more day that I'm happy about something inconsequential. And that's all I care about. The draft is fun to plan for and follow, but tanking a game to grab a slightly better spot in what amounts to a luck-of-the-draw scenario like the draft just isn't worth it.

IGY's point is that losing the Dallas AND Buffalo games would have pushed them up to pick 8 or 9, a significant difference.

I agree with you, though.  As much as I try, I can't use logic to root for them to lose, especially against Dallas.

[Rome]

I can see cheering for a loss in some circumstances but not against the Cowboys. 

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I can see cheering for a loss in some circumstances but not against the Cowboys or skins, and not against the Giants unless it would directly hurt the Cowboys or skins after the Eagles are already eliminated. 

That's my rule.

[Feva]

I would always want the Eagles to win. I can (and have) pontificate about how they 'should' lose out for a better draft pick, but the difference between 16 and 19 is minimal and if it means one more win for the team I root for, that's one more day that I'm happy about something inconsequential. And that's all I care about. The draft is fun to plan for and follow, but tanking a game to grab a slightly better spot in what amounts to a luck-of-the-draw scenario like the draft just isn't worth it.

Oh yeah, we've all thought about how it'd be good for them to lose to improve draft position... and probably have used draft position to help make us feel better about a loss... but I've never gotten to the point to getting upset or bothered by the fact that they won.

[Feva]

I can see cheering for a loss in some circumstances but not against the Cowboys. 

What circumstances?

I can (and have) used outside circumstances to try to ease the frustration of seeing them lose... but I can never outright hope they lose.

[BigEd76]

I wanted them to lose the final games of 1998.  If they had won one of the final three, they'd have been picking 4th and taking Akili Smith.  Another win would have dropped them to 6th or 7th...

[Rome]

I wanted them to lose the final games of 1998.  If they had won one of the final three, they'd have been picking 4th and taking Akili Smith.  Another win would have dropped them to 6th or 7th...

A good example here.

And like FF posted, if their losing somehow hurts a division rival, I can get with that too.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I would always want the Eagles to win. I can (and have) pontificate about how they 'should' lose out for a better draft pick, but the difference between 16 and 19 is minimal and if it means one more win for the team I root for, that's one more day that I'm happy about something inconsequential. And that's all I care about. The draft is fun to plan for and follow, but tanking a game to grab a slightly better spot in what amounts to a luck-of-the-draw scenario like the draft just isn't worth it.

Oh yeah, we've all thought about how it'd be good for them to lose to improve draft position... and probably have used draft position to help make us feel better about a loss... but I've never gotten to the point to getting upset or bothered by the fact that they won.

Clearly, IGY is an angrier black man than are you.

[ice grillin you]

i think people are confusing rooting for them to win while the game is going on and if they lose then thats good to because it helps the draft pick...and still saying months later they are glad they beat buffalo and dallas

no eagle fan is watching the game and cheering when new orleans dallas or buffalo made a good play against the eagles

and youre insane romey to say youd want them to lose to some teams but not dallas...wtf?...if it helps the eagles it helps the eagles...at least feva would never under any circumstances want then to lose...you cant pick and choose here

[Feva]

Nah, I get you IGY... I know you're not pissed as Westbrook runs in a TD or anything.  It's more along the lines of later on... you're thinking, "What did it really accomplish?"


I've got no prob with that... I just figure we'll get to next year and offseason when we get there... and the Eagles will pick where they pick.

[Sgt PSN]

My thought on the whole thing is that unless you play yourself out of a top 7 or 8 draft pick then I don't think it hurts a team all that much by winning and game or 2 late in the season.  So unless you're legitimately looking at one of the top spots in the draft then you might as well play the season out and try and finish strong. 

Look at it like this.  2 of the Eagles final 3 wins came against a team fighting to get into the playoffs (Saints) and a team that was trying to lock up HFA (Pukes).  So the Eagles beat these teams when they had something to play for.  It's not like NO and Dal both just rolled over because they had nothing to play for.  They went up against and beat 2 good teams that were fighting for something. 

Even in a season as inconsistant as this one was, that 3 game winning streak meant a lot to the players.  It showed them that when the team is healthy they can play with anyone.  They got a little confidence heading into the offseason and I'd much rather them go into the offseason with confidence instead of doubt. 

[Wingspan]

Players don't give a shtein about a higher draft pick.

You want a player to play like shtein, to lose a game, to get a higher pick... so that pick could be their replacement?

Not ever gonna happen.

[rjs246]

The more time goes on, the less importance I put on draft position. Outside of the top 5 or so picks I just don't think it matters that much where you pick. I'm sure there's a legit argument against that reasoning, but watching teams like the raiders and cardinals pick in the top 10 year after year after year has convinced me that 'building through the draft' doesn't have to include premium draft position. As such, I would rather the Eagles just win. Even in hindsight.

[ice grillin you]

Players don't give a shtein about a higher draft pick.

You want a player to play like shtein, to lose a game, to get a higher pick... so that pick could be their replacement?

Not ever gonna happen.

lol

no one is saying anything like that...we are simply talking about the end result of those games if a win is better than a loss in a certain scenario

and sarge nothing that happened in 2007 means a thing in 2008...especially in todays free agency ridden nfl...add in injuries and parity in general and no game meant anything last year much less late season games when the eagles were out of it

my thing with draft slot is lets say you really want deshean jackson (just an example dont tell me how the eagles wont pick a wr that high)...theres a good chance he goes right before the eagles now as opposed to the eagles being able to get him at say 15...much less if they were in the top ten...that to me is more important than some stupid late season win that no one will remember or care about in april