With the First Pick in the 2008 NFL Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles Select...

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ice grillin you

Quote from: Munson on November 06, 2007, 02:44:52 PM
At this point, to me, a play making safety/LB/DE is a bigger priority then WR. Whether it's a SS, or someone who can take over for Dawk in a few years, they need a safety. Mikell is good

all things equal the front seven may be more of need...but in the next few years things arent gonna be equal because the eagles are gonna have cobb growing up in the nfl...and if they want to help him develop both mentally and physically they have to give him weapons...it would be a gigantic mistake to force that kid to have to throw to the wr's they have now...they need a true #1 to play along with cobb

also mikell is not good...hes not a nfl starter....hes the ike reese of safeties
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SunMo

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ice grillin you

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Feva

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 06, 2007, 03:01:35 PM
Quote from: Munson on November 06, 2007, 02:44:52 PM
At this point, to me, a play making safety/LB/DE is a bigger priority then WR. Whether it's a SS, or someone who can take over for Dawk in a few years, they need a safety. Mikell is good

all things equal the front seven may be more of need...but in the next few years things arent gonna be equal because the eagles are gonna have cobb growing up in the nfl...and if they want to help him develop both mentally and physically they have to give him weapons...it would be a gigantic mistake to force that kid to have to throw to the wr's they have now...they need a true #1 to play along with cobb

They did it to McNabb.  If they're here... they'll do it to Kolb.
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SD_Eagle5

Its all about matchups and Andy being able to put players in better position to make plays. The notion that a #1 WR isn't needed is utterly retarded.

Magical_Retard

Quote from: EagleFeva on November 06, 2007, 03:18:04 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 06, 2007, 03:01:35 PM
Quote from: Munson on November 06, 2007, 02:44:52 PM
At this point, to me, a play making safety/LB/DE is a bigger priority then WR. Whether it's a SS, or someone who can take over for Dawk in a few years, they need a safety. Mikell is good

all things equal the front seven may be more of need...but in the next few years things arent gonna be equal because the eagles are gonna have cobb growing up in the nfl...and if they want to help him develop both mentally and physically they have to give him weapons...it would be a gigantic mistake to force that kid to have to throw to the wr's they have now...they need a true #1 to play along with cobb



They did it to McNabb.  If they're here... they'll do it to Kolb.

i was just about to say this. especially if kolb is who reid believes he is. someone who is so good that reid needed to trade up to acquire him and someone who reid has been following for the past 4 seasons. there is no doubt in my mind that he will be surrounded by the same crap that mcnabb was for the majority of his career. only hope would be that he is better than mcnabb and overcomes the inaccuracy mcnabb has so somehow he might make these WRs produce more so.

either that or he is worse than mcnabb which would force reid to maybe think about getting a WR and running the ball more.

best case scenario...kolb is a great #2 behind mcnabb who stayes here for another 3-4 seasons under a new coach.
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ice grillin you

hed have to be almost tom brady accurate or be able to move like mcnabb used to in order for him to succeed with these wr's

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Feva

You sound as if you don't know damn well that's what Reid will force him to be.
"Now I'm completing up the other half of that triangle" - Emmitt Smith on joining Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin in the Hall of Fame

"If you have sex with a prostitute against her will, is that considered rape or shoplifting?" -- 2 Live Stews

ice grillin you

no matter how wrong i may be....i refuse to believe even andy reid could be that ignorant

edit- and actually even if andy remians a stubborn mule and even if the debacle of this year doesnt get reid fired that it will at least get lurie involved in making some changes in philosophy...
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

pinoyboy2pt0

I think I figured out how this team can be successful under Reid.  Assuming he stays and doesn't change, god forbid, here's what we gotta do.

Stock up on D.

So if there was some way in hell we could get Suggs and draft Phillips (who I'm not that high on, but replacing sean "backpack" considine...c'mon).  Reid only runs the ball in 2 situations.  If we're up anywhere from 10-25 pts or if the previous series we go pass pass pass punt.  We usually run after that, maybe only for a few plays, but those are the situations when we run the ball.  If we are leading by less than 10-25 pts, we pass.  That's why when Dallas was up 14-7, I knew all we would do is pass the ball from then on out.  and, as usual, the other team knew it.

so if we can keep the opposing team in negative points or hold them to where they are a good 3 touchdowns behind us, i think we're in good shape.  we basically have to have the best defense in the league for us to win.  i say that cause i don't see us going after chad or fitz and reid will always have a hard on for passing and will do it no matter what.

fa:  suggs
draft 1st rd:  phillips
draft 2nd rd: a cornerback

i'd LOVE to get dorsey.  him and bunk would create some pressure up the middle, but since howard is basically a DT and patterson is...racking up tackles (statistically), our..well...our front 7 is just all kinds of farged up.  we got bitch slapped by the boys and i want a dt that plays like his head is on fire like shaun rogers.  that would make our zesty secondary better too.  juqua/kearse-bunk-dorsey-cole then on passing downs kearse-howard-patterson-cole.  that's tolerable.
Pass.  Pass. Pass. PUNT.  No pro bowl WR's.  Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  Retarded special teams.  Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  "I've got to do a better job."  Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  Running game shines for 3 plays. Pass. Pass. Pass. PUNT.  No adjustments anywhere.  Pass.  Pass. Pass. PUNT.  (repeat)

Feva

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 06, 2007, 03:58:15 PM
no matter how wrong i may be....i refuse to believe even andy reid could be that ignorant

edit- and actually even if andy remians a stubborn mule and even if the debacle of this year doesnt get reid fired that it will at least get lurie involved in making some changes in philosophy...

As far as Lurie is concerned... AR is the winningest coach in Eagles history so he'll stay out of things.  It'll take more than a year of zesty play before he'll even look Andy's way to place blame.

And as for Reid... remember that we're talking about a guy who it took 5 years to realize that the shtein he assembled at WR wasn't getting it done... and apparently still to this day hasn't really learned that lesson.  

It's also the same man who despite last year, getting a better view than ANYONE at the fact that this offense (and consequently the defense) plays 10X's better with balanced playcalling that took advantage of Westbrook's talents on the ground... still refuses to run the ball with any consistency or in a critical situation.

It's also the guy who left this team without a farging punt returner entering this season... only to go back and get the guy who he cut in the first farging place.

It's also the guy who refused to scheme or assign help to a LT making his first NFL start against a Pro Bowl DE.  Even though his franchise QB on a bad leg was getting killed because of it.

IGY, my man... Andy Reid is ignorant enough to think that Kevin Kolb can lead this team to the promised land with bland, average, pedestrian WR's.
"Now I'm completing up the other half of that triangle" - Emmitt Smith on joining Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin in the Hall of Fame

"If you have sex with a prostitute against her will, is that considered rape or shoplifting?" -- 2 Live Stews

Munson

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 06, 2007, 03:01:35 PM
Quote from: Munson on November 06, 2007, 02:44:52 PM
At this point, to me, a play making safety/LB/DE is a bigger priority then WR. Whether it's a SS, or someone who can take over for Dawk in a few years, they need a safety. Mikell is good

all things equal the front seven may be more of need...but in the next few years things arent gonna be equal because the eagles are gonna have cobb growing up in the nfl...and if they want to help him develop both mentally and physically they have to give him weapons...it would be a gigantic mistake to force that kid to have to throw to the wr's they have now...they need a true #1 to play along with cobb

also mikell is not good...hes not a nfl starter....hes the ike reese of safeties

I agree that if/when the Kolb era starts, they need to get him a weapon to help him develop.

However, I do not agree that they do this through the draft. THey've been below average at best in drafting WR's, and you're going to get a true #1 stud in the draft in THIS offense. They're best bet is to find a #1 stud WR that's already been developed into one by some other team. I wouldn't mind a Fitz/Brown/Curtis/Avant/Baskett WR core. Infact, that group has a good combo of size and speed.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

PhillyPhreak54


Rome

Kearse was the top free agent DE in 2004.  That worked out great.

methdeez

How about a RB to back up Westbrook?
He's not going to last forever, and there is no way that Buck should be back next year.