It's time for Reid to GO!!!!!!

Started by TexasEagle, September 09, 2007, 05:36:47 PM

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bowzer

Quote from: ice grillin you on September 18, 2007, 12:20:24 AM
that time out he called tonight was manuel like

Andy the iceman.  Ice a kicker in the first half on a chipshot in a 6-3 game.

Sgt PSN

I've been thinking about the direction the Eagles have been heading since Reid took over as HC 8 years ago.  Here's what I've come up with:

1.  He inherited one of the worst offenses ever and made it an inconsistant, but sometimes high scoring offense.  

2.  He inherited a defense that was in it's infant stage of becoming a truly dominating defense but could never find that one missing piece that they were missing.  

This team has now come full circle and is no better no than when he took over.  In fact, it may be worse.  When Reid took over the defense featured a healthy combo of youth and players in their prime like Dawk, Taylor, Vincent, Hugh and Trot.  Other than Lito, Sheldon and Killa, there is no real youth on this defense to be excited about for the future.  On offense there wasn't much to speak of except Thomas and Duce.  Now Andrews and Westbrook are the only true future to this offense so as far as I'm concerned the offense is still roughly in the same place it was when Reid got here.  I still love McNabb but for the first time since the Eagles drafted him, I really doubt whether or not he can lead this team to a SB.  I do, however, have zero doubt that it will never be done with Reid at the helm.  

rjs246

Quote from: TexasEagle on September 18, 2007, 12:20:29 AM
True, but Cowher understands the basics of football... like running the ball, a big bruising defense and going for the jugular to win the game.

And HELL NO to Parcells. Are you farging nuts?

This.

Quote from: bowzer on September 18, 2007, 12:21:09 AM
Andy the iceman.  Ice a kicker in the first half on a chipshot in a 6-3 game.

God damn, I keep getting angrier and angrier.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

Sgt PSN

Quote from: TexasEagle on September 18, 2007, 12:20:29 AM
And HELL NO to Parcells. Are you farging nuts?

At this point, I would take the aborted fetus of MDS/Britney Spears over Reid so Parcells, or anyone else for that matter, gets my full fledged approval. 

rjs246

Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

TexasEagle

Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 18, 2007, 12:22:57 AM
I've been thinking about the direction the Eagles have been heading since Reid took over as HC 8 years ago.  Here's what I've come up with:

1.  He inherited one of the worst offenses ever and made it an inconsistant, but sometimes high scoring offense. 

2.  He inherited a defense that was in it's infant stage of becoming a truly dominating defense but could never find that one missing piece that they were missing. 

This team has now come full circle and is no better no than when he took over.  In fact, it may be worse.  When Reid took over the defense featured a healthy combo of youth and players in their prime like Dawk, Taylor, Vincent, Hugh and Trot.  Other than Lito, Sheldon and Killa, there is no real youth on this defense to be excited about for the future.  On offense there wasn't much to speak of except Thomas and Duce.  Now Andrews and Westbrook are the only true future to this offense so as far as I'm concerned the offense is still roughly in the same place it was when Reid got here.  I still love McNabb but for the first time since the Eagles drafted him, I really doubt whether or not he can lead this team to a SB.  I do, however, have zero doubt that it will never be done with Reid at the helm. 

Nice post. I'm at the point now where I'm wondering if McNabb can lead the team to a winning season again. And that hurts because he's such a great guy but without his mobility (which he refused to used because of his not wanting to be a running QB horse shtein) he's an average QB with a strong arm.

ice grillin you

i know i sound like a broken record with this but the bottom line is reid is either unwilling or inable or both to bring in talented players on this team...outside of westbrook they dont have any playmaking talent on either side of the ball...its so vanilla its not even funny...and you combine that with his absolute inept coaching and you have a 4-12 team....until he goes gets used to what we are seeing now
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Sgt PSN

Quote from: rjs246 on September 18, 2007, 12:26:47 AM
Aborted fetus > Parcells > MDS

True.  But I'd still rather see any one of those 3 on the sidelines besides Reid.

bowzer

Quote from: TexasEagle on September 18, 2007, 12:27:18 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 18, 2007, 12:22:57 AM
I've been thinking about the direction the Eagles have been heading since Reid took over as HC 8 years ago.  Here's what I've come up with:

1.  He inherited one of the worst offenses ever and made it an inconsistant, but sometimes high scoring offense. 

2.  He inherited a defense that was in it's infant stage of becoming a truly dominating defense but could never find that one missing piece that they were missing. 

This team has now come full circle and is no better no than when he took over.  In fact, it may be worse.  When Reid took over the defense featured a healthy combo of youth and players in their prime like Dawk, Taylor, Vincent, Hugh and Trot.  Other than Lito, Sheldon and Killa, there is no real youth on this defense to be excited about for the future.  On offense there wasn't much to speak of except Thomas and Duce.  Now Andrews and Westbrook are the only true future to this offense so as far as I'm concerned the offense is still roughly in the same place it was when Reid got here.  I still love McNabb but for the first time since the Eagles drafted him, I really doubt whether or not he can lead this team to a SB.  I do, however, have zero doubt that it will never be done with Reid at the helm. 

Nice post. I'm at the point now where I'm wondering if McNabb can lead the team to a winning season again. And that hurts because he's such a great guy but without his mobility (which he refused to used because of his not wanting to be a running QB horse shtein) he's an average QB with a strong arm.

I used to love Mcnabb but I'm tired of his attitude towards Philadelphia fans, and I'm tired of him always playing the race card.  I didn't see that HBO segment with him, but on the teaser he was pulling the race card again.  How about you work on your touch...

Magical_Retard

Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 18, 2007, 12:22:57 AM
I've been thinking about the direction the Eagles have been heading since Reid took over as HC 8 years ago.  Here's what I've come up with:

1.  He inherited one of the worst offenses ever and made it an inconsistant, but sometimes high scoring offense. 

2.  He inherited a defense that was in it's infant stage of becoming a truly dominating defense but could never find that one missing piece that they were missing. 

This team has now come full circle and is no better no than when he took over.  In fact, it may be worse.  When Reid took over the defense featured a healthy combo of youth and players in their prime like Dawk, Taylor, Vincent, Hugh and Trot.  Other than Lito, Sheldon and Killa, there is no real youth on this defense to be excited about for the future.  On offense there wasn't much to speak of except Thomas and Duce.  Now Andrews and Westbrook are the only true future to this offense so as far as I'm concerned the offense is still roughly in the same place it was when Reid got here.  I still love McNabb but for the first time since the Eagles drafted him, I really doubt whether or not he can lead this team to a SB.  I do, however, have zero doubt that it will never be done with Reid at the helm. 

agreed with everything.

reid gets a lot of credit for the turning the eagles around and developing mcnabb...which ill give him but no one points out how bad the nfc east and nfc overall has been since the 00s started. no one points out how reid has gotten out of his way to avoid talent at key positions like WR, LB, Safety or D line. sure we have drafted or signed players to replace LBs and D lineman but always undersized speed demons who always get blown up on tackles and always blocked. i mean to have a bad rush D one season is one thing. to have a bad rush D 2 yrs is troubling but for 9 yrs to have a bad rush D and not even attempt to fix it is beyond reason.

similarly on offense we tried just 2 seasons out of the 9 to fix the WR position. and both times it worked....one time we had to let TO go but the 2nd time it made no sense to let stallworth go.

i still believe if stallworth is here we score one TD at least in this game.

we wasted the prime of both dawkins and mcnabb. possible the two best players of the past 10 season for the eagles. and all because reid was too stubborn and wanted to win thru his system.
Marge: I have someone who can help you!
Homer: Is it BATMAN!!??
Marge: No hes a scientist
Homer: Batman is a scientist.
Marge: Its not BATMAN!

Munson

Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 18, 2007, 12:22:57 AM
I've been thinking about the direction the Eagles have been heading since Reid took over as HC 8 years ago.  Here's what I've come up with:

1.  He inherited one of the worst offenses ever and made it an inconsistant, but sometimes high scoring offense. 

2.  He inherited a defense that was in it's infant stage of becoming a truly dominating defense but could never find that one missing piece that they were missing. 

This team has now come full circle and is no better no than when he took over.  In fact, it may be worse.  When Reid took over the defense featured a healthy combo of youth and players in their prime like Dawk, Taylor, Vincent, Hugh and Trot.  Other than Lito, Sheldon and Killa, there is no real youth on this defense to be excited about for the future.  On offense there wasn't much to speak of except Thomas and Duce.  Now Andrews and Westbrook are the only true future to this offense so as far as I'm concerned the offense is still roughly in the same place it was when Reid got here.  I still love McNabb but for the first time since the Eagles drafted him, I really doubt whether or not he can lead this team to a SB.  I do, however, have zero doubt that it will never be done with Reid at the helm. 

In defense of the defense....Gaither and Bunkley have both shown promise so far. Gaither last year AND this year...and Bunkley has looked good through two games so far.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Geowhizzer

I'm almost afriad that Reid will resign before the end of the season.  In some ways, it just seems like his heart isn't in it anymore. 

If he does, then I would assume the Morninwheg becomes "interim" coach, and Lurie and Banner would probably give him a "fair chance."

I want the Eagles to clear house when Reid does leave.  Outside the organization.  Not necessarily Cowher, but someone different.

Magical_Retard

Quote from: ice grillin you on September 18, 2007, 12:27:36 AM
i know i sound like a broken record with this but the bottom line is reid is either unwilling or inable or both to bring in talented players on this team...outside of westbrook they dont have any playmaking talent on either side of the ball...its so vanilla its not even funny...and you combine that with his absolute inept coaching and you have a 4-12 team....until he goes gets used to what we are seeing now


and that westbrook pick was a lucky one at that.

what did the pats give up for moss? imagine if we had even offered a 1st round pick to oak for moss. better than trading it to dallas and drafting a backup qb to pressure mcnabb even more.
Marge: I have someone who can help you!
Homer: Is it BATMAN!!??
Marge: No hes a scientist
Homer: Batman is a scientist.
Marge: Its not BATMAN!

ice grillin you

Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 18, 2007, 12:29:52 AM
no one points out how bad the nfc east and nfc overall has been since the 00s started. no one points out how reid has gotten out of his way to avoid talent at key positions like WR, LB, Safety or D line.


tell me this is a joke?
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Sgt PSN

Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 18, 2007, 12:30:21 AM
In some ways, it just seems like his heart isn't in it anymore.  


I wish his heart wasn't in him anymore.  

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I want the Eagles to clear house when Reid does leave.  Outside the organization.  Not necessarily Cowher, but someone different.

Echo?  ;)

Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 13, 2007, 11:46:50 AM
I would prefer the next HC to be someone with no past within this organization.  I don't want someone who's going to toe the company line.  I want a complete outsider who wasn't groomed in any way, shape or form by the current administration.