trotter cut

[ice grillin you]

I dont know what your point was to begin with. All you said originally was "only two linebackers tho and one was a 7th rounder"

because you brought up how many defensive players they have drafted in the last two years when the subject at hand was the linebackers...and i was just saying that they really havent addressed the lb position properly in those two drafts...especially this past year

[Wingspan]

I dont know what your point was to begin with. All you said originally was "only two linebackers tho and one was a 7th rounder"

because you brought up how many defensive players they have drafted in the last two years when the subject at hand was the linebackers...and i was just saying that they really havent addressed the lb position properly in those two drafts...especially this past year

Ok, fine. But they used 3 picks out of 16 on LBs.  Considering that only 3 of 22 positions are LBs, I think it's properly addressed.

Reid has always drafted for a goal of about a year out, or longer. Which is why 2 LBs were taken in 2006, and 2 were also taken in 2005. Which actually makes it 5 LBs in 3 years.  For someone else to say that Reid has not properly addressed weaknesses in the draft, by only looking at their first pick of that current year's draft, is shortsighted and inaccurate.

[Magical_Retard]

I dont know what your point was to begin with. All you said originally was "only two linebackers tho and one was a 7th rounder"

because you brought up how many defensive players they have drafted in the last two years when the subject at hand was the linebackers...and i was just saying that they really havent addressed the lb position properly in those two drafts...especially this past year

exactly!

you cant point to late round picks who are mostly projects and say they addressed the position. especially when that position is weak to begin with. you need top talent there to replace the garbage you have and yet they keep reaching for players who might or might not pan out...and most likely not. also wingspan..he only drafted those 2 other LBs in 06 cause the ones on the roster didnt work out and he prolly couldnt find some project O lineman he could draft (basically at that point pick whatever you want and its just really a guess since there are no givens in those drafts...hell no givens anywhere in the draft but you play the numbers game percentage wise).

point is drafting project LBs late into the draft yr after yr is not addressing the position. thats really hoping some of the crap you draft turns out to be good.

and how is mcnabb now being a bad arse leader now? just cause he expressed his views on trotter leaving? what should have he done? made a joke about trotter leaving that no one thought was funny. he cant be a clown at all times and serious at all times. i think hes a clown on purpose to the media cause the media is so pathetic in how they try to find stories where there are none. again with mcnabb its always hes gotta be perfect in everything he says and in his tone and when he says it and how quickly he says it or where he says it from. its almost like we want mcnabb to be TO.

[ice grillin you]

point is drafting project LBs late into the draft yr after yr is not addressing the position. thats really hoping some of the crap you draft turns out to be good.

precisely

and if youre gonna take a shot with a low round pick in gaither who initially was brought in for special teams and a total project in gocong then in 07 you better draft a highly rated guy somewhere...as of now they have none of those...its two projects and a bunch of scrubs

[Wingspan]

Since when is the 3rd round late in the draft?

[Rome]

It's late on Saturday.

[Tomahawk]

The thing that bothers me about McNabb is he's always been the class clown, cut-up type.  And that's fine.  If you think leading others by making them laugh and keep lose is the way to go, then so be it.  The problem lies in when you try and act serious like some sort of foot-in-the-ass field general, it doesn't work.

You're either the keep-it-loose class clown or you're the no-bullshtein field-general type.  You can't be both.  It seems that lately Donovan has tried to assume a mantle of leadership and his teammates are looking at him like "dude, are you farging serious with this horseshtein - quit acting like something you're not."

I mean, I see it so his teammates have to as well, right?  I don't know... maybe I'm wrong.

Sure you can. People listen more when you get all serious because it's out of character.

[Rome]

We Got

[Feva]

Since when is the 3rd round late in the draft?

It's not late.  But remember, they didn't draft Bradley to be a MLB... it just turns out now that they figure he may be able to play there.  They drafted him because he was a natural SAM.

What I think IGY and Magic are getting at is that the Eagles knew that Trotter had a bad year last year and the thought of possibly releasing him crept into their heads all the way back in January.  Why then, do you go through the draft without going after a top level player at that position to groom as a replacement instead of taking a project and trying to fit a square in a round peg that may or may not fit?

They've done this a lot just in the recent years with their LB's.

Simoneau - was an OLB with in ATL.  Eagles put him at MLB.
Bowtie - was a MLB in college and a WIL in NY.  Eagles put him at SAM
Gaither - was a MLB in college.  Eagles put him at WIL (last year).
Gocong - was a DE in college.  Eagles have him STARTING at SAM.
Bradley - again, a SLB in college.  Eagles are turning him into a MLB.

If they're not going to get out there and go after quality LB's (Spikes notwithstanding) then I think you at least have to do yourself a favor and go after some top-notch LB prospects in the draft.

[ice grillin you]

^^^^
the voice of reason

[Zanshin]

Not that I really feel like jumping into this pointless conversation, but they did bring in Spikes.  And if a top prospect they like was available, I don't doubt that would have been a strong consideration.  And, believe me, I'm not overwhelmed by what they've done at LB over the last ten years or so...dating back to before Reid.  I mean, they haven't been able to draft a solid LB early in forever...probably going back to Darling.

[Phanatic]

...but Simoneau's the starting MLB of the Saints still!

[Tomahawk]

We Got

You shouldn't make fun of bulimics

[rjs246]

McNabb is such a bitch.

[Magical_Retard]

Not that I really feel like jumping into this pointless conversation, but they did bring in Spikes.  And if a top prospect they like was available, I don't doubt that would have been a strong consideration.  And, believe me, I'm not overwhelmed by what they've done at LB over the last ten years or so...dating back to before Reid.  I mean, they haven't been able to draft a solid LB early in forever...probably going back to Darling.

see i would agree with this cept when they have really liked a player and deemed that position "worthy" they have traded up or gone after that player. they didnt do it this yr with the safeties they liked or the LBs they possibly liked cause its not "worth enough" to them. if it was some DLineman or Olineman they considered amazing, regardless of need, they would have gone for him. not that im saying draft for need ONLY, but when you have needs on a team built to go deep into the playoffs and possibly a superbowl you dont ignore the needs till later rounds.

the eagles FO always seems to be buidling for a tomorrow that never comes.