Kevin Kolb, Philadelphia Eagle

Started by PhillyandBCEagles, April 28, 2007, 07:13:22 PM

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PhillyPhreak54

Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 05, 2010, 11:36:49 PM
Why you are lumping me in with the other 2, I have no idea.

I didn't want McNabb to stay.

(broken record)

I don't get why I am labeled a Kolb Hater.

Because I don't think he's a viable option as an NFL QB, I suppose.

But that video is damning evidence that he is not cut out for the job.


reese125

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The only reason he didnt make those throws wasnt because he couldnt, but it was because he was scared of making a mistake

Im sure there were plenty of practices in camp when a cover 2 zone was played and he made them. His problem right now is he has no confidence in his coaching staff, the fans of Philadelphia and most obvious himself. Now, he will be taking first team reps in practice for the next 2 weeks or so and getting all kinds of looks from various defenses caught on film. If that shtein happens again and he doesnt throw the ball--throw in the towel because even the medicore of all back up qb's in the league make those throws

PhillyPhreak54

Do you believe that?

That his confidence is shaken? I have a very hard time believing that his apparent lack of confidence in the coaching staff means he can't pull the trigger and trust his eyes as to what he sees.

Run the play that is called. Do what your eyes, the coverages and film study tell you to do.

reese125

you know Im no Kolb fan Phreak, but Im giving the guy the benefit of the doubt here because this guys mind has been twisted sideways in more ways than one

you can see his head is staring down the field, but he checked down for the sure throw. that is lack of confidence.

PhillyPhreak54

I sure hope you're right. I mean, it doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy that he's got a confidence problem, but that can be fixed. The inability to make those throws, if not confidence related, means they've wasted about $15M and a 2nd round pick.

MDS

whether it was a lack of confidence, misreads or coaching direction, this is something you need to see week to week improvement on

if hes doing this again next week or in november, then yea, maybe this isn't gonna happen. but maybe he sees the tape, realizes he needs to stop being a Hoyda, and he comes out firing. how about we wait and see. again, this year was supposed to figure out whether or not kolb was any good. 2 separate halfs in...he sort of sucks. but im eager to see more.
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Munson

Either that or he really REALLY can't read a defense/it's openings. I think confidence is a big factor. He was playing scared, just like he played in week 1. He's got happy feet and he needs to get it under control.


And lol at "Kolb Hater". I don't hate the guy, I just would have rather seen Reid go than McNabb. Since I knew that wasn't going to happen, I'm going to piss and moan until the Eagles put a guy at the QB position who shows he at least has a small chance of winning a SB on an Andy Reid-ran team. That means he's gotta be great.....And while you can't say Kolb's going to be terrible, I think you know when a guy has "it" after a few games...and Kolb just doesn't. He's above average at his best. He's the type of QB that will have a few good games and a few bad games...a few great throws and a few terrible throws. And as we've seen from the last 11 years, that doesn't win a SB with Andy Reid. But hey, maybe if he can get to the McNabb level of more good games than bad, the better supporting cast could help him win it. But with Reid, and Banner, and Howie....lol fat chance. Pun intended.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Hawk

I don't understand how Kevin Kolb's performance in two seperate halves has somehow justified the Mcnabb lover boys.  First off, Mcnabb is being used as a game manager.  Shannahan ran the ball down our throat and Mcnabb played a Trent Dilfer like role in that offense.  Secondly, Mcnabb still is a piss poor time manager, and made one of the stupidest plays I can recall when he ran out of bounds on that first down.  Third, I love these pictures and videos of the open receivers... Kolb was placed into a huge game... after being named the starter... then replaced by Vick... then named the starter.. then demoted in favor of Vick... he had jitters and was afraid to throw the deal... big deal...

On top of it all.. Mcnabb probably would have overthrown those receivers like he did in that first half of the Arizona playoff game... or he would have thrown behind their shoulders... or he would have bounced it to them... or he would have puked on Jason Peters as he rolled around on the ground after another holding call.

JackStraw

Look, 4 years is the nfl means you should be able to play the position when called upon - especially for the team that fancies itself the gold standard. I think kolbs stock play is now whether he's going to be Bobby Hoying bad or merely Doug Pederson pedestrian. Could be a classic example of "buy the rumor, sell the news"...

Couple games should do it. Lose in Frisco and team should leave him in oaksterdam across the bay where Hoying made his exit....
Endless regression to the mean

Hawk

Quote from: JackStraw on October 06, 2010, 12:43:09 AM
Look, 4 years is the nfl means you should be able to play the position when called upon - especially for the team that fancies itself the gold standard. I think kolbs stock play is now whether he's going to be Bobby Hoying bad or merely Doug Pederson pedestrian. Could be a classic example of "buy the rumor, sell the news"...

Couple games should do it. Lose in Frisco and team should leave him in oaksterdam across the bay where Hoying made his exit....

3 years of experience... He put up over 600 yards in 2 games last year... just like those 2 games are not enough to annoint him a legit starter, neither are two halves enough to clarify him a bust...

Aaron Rodgers had under 200 yards in his first game as a full starter... pretty sure he wasn't throwing the deep ball either.

QB Eagles

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I want to know who these QBs are that came into their first series of starts bombing down the field with high accuracy. Romo maybe? Brady came around pretty rapidly but it even took him three games or so to get away from the constant dink and dunk. Manning came into the league throwing a ton of picks his first season.

Don't you guys watch a lot of NFL games? You never noticed new QBs checking down a lot and playing more conservatively than veterans? Sanchez is just starting to open things up more than a year into his career. You can say that Kolb sitting on the bench for years should have turned him into a real quarterback, but I don't buy into that Andy Reid BS. QBs gotta play the game for real. Kolb might very well suck, but I think it's crazy that someone can already conclusively say that.

Diomedes

As I've said, I'm willing to ride this out for a while to see how Kolb does over time, so that's my position and I'm sticking to it.

It is however hard to watch tape like that without wondering what's going on.  He's not a rookie.  He's had three years of study and practice with an NFL team.  He's not had a lot of live real game experience, true, but I do think he's had enough to pick up some of those receivers.  It's not like we're talking about a rookie thrown straight into the starting role here.

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Rome

The joy with which some of you evidently watch Kolb struggle is really disgusting.

He's an Eagle and you should be cheering for him to succeed, not fail.

Idiots.

ice grillin you

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 05, 2010, 11:40:07 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 05, 2010, 11:36:49 PM
Why you are lumping me in with the other 2, I have no idea.

I didn't want McNabb to stay.

(broken record)

I don't get why I am labeled a Kolb Hater.

maybe cause you are going painfully out of your way to try and show im not sure who that cobb isnt a good nfl qb?

i dont think theres a person on this board who thinks cobb is going to be a good nfl qb....at best i hear people say they are willing to give him a chance

i certainly dont think hes going to be any good and i guarantee i hate cobb more than you...the difference is your desperation by pulling replays that say he didnt hit an open wr when the guy has less than 200 career attempts just screams haterism

im sure if i had access to game film i could pull a couple "eye in the sky" replays of tom brady missing a wr last week...in fact brady completed exactly two passes last week where the ball traveled more than 10 yards and averaged 8 yards a throw...cobb averaged over 9

the point being if i wanted to hate i could cherry pick any qb in the league any week and find something that fits my agenda....the fact that you are doing this with a guy that is so inexperienced is why people see you as a hater
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PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Rome on October 06, 2010, 07:17:55 AM
The joy with which some of you evidently watch Kolb struggle is really disgusting.

He's an Eagle and you should be cheering for him to succeed, not fail.

Idiots.

Why so angry, buddy?

P.S.  I agree.