Westy overpaid.. ouch

Started by sammyeaglesfan, April 14, 2007, 09:38:09 PM

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Wingspan

Quote from: ice grillin you on October 19, 2007, 10:28:32 AM
That is correct.


you have a link for that...because everything ive read has said that they arent paying him to force him to pay the money back because he didnt accept their terms on a payback plan

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20071018_Birds__Westbrook_still_at_odds_over_extra_money.html
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SunMo

QuoteBut when Westbrook confirmed in a WIP radio interview last week that the team currently is withholding his paychecks to recoup part of the money, he also said he is not happy about that.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20071018_Westbrook_on_paying_back_that__3M__Its_a_bad_situation.html
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

ice grillin you

Quote from: Wingspan on October 19, 2007, 10:40:50 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 19, 2007, 10:28:32 AM
That is correct.


you have a link for that...because everything ive read has said that they arent paying him to force him to pay the money back because he didnt accept their terms on a payback plan

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20071018_Birds__Westbrook_still_at_odds_over_extra_money.html


it says nowhere in there that they are garnishing his funds...just that they are withholding them

it also says that nothing has been settled...that westbrook did not sign the agreement and that they are still working on a resolution...if the eagles werwe garnishing funds that would be the end of this
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Rome

Quote from: Beermonkey on October 19, 2007, 10:22:36 AM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on October 19, 2007, 10:13:25 AM
I don't know what the situation is exactly but if they're withholding checks from him because of an accounting error that they made, that's a farged up thing right there.

If your employer overpaid you commissions, how would they get the money back from you?

Well, first of all it's apples and oranges but for the sake of argument I'll respond. 

I would make arrangements to pay the money back but only after all the other issues (especially the IRS and State Tax things) were resolved first.  It was their accounting error, not mine, so they shouldn't be making threats about garnishing my wages under any circumstances.

QuoteThe Eagles have every right to dock his paycheck for money owed back.

And regarding the post you made above, yes, they DO have the right to garnish his wages but why would they?  Why would they piss off a guy who is their best offensive weapon and a player they absolutely need to be successful?  That's why this situation is apples & oranges.  A hypothetical employer of mine could easily replace me without batting an eye but the Eagles are in a completely different situation with Westbrook.

They screwed up royally and rather than let the situation resolve itself and lend aid to Westbrook in whatever way they can, they threaten to garnish his wages?  It's idiotic but then again so is every other way that team conducts its business.  They farg over the fans, they farged over their ex-players, they farged over the contractors who built their stadium - on and on it goes.

Beermonkey

Quote from: SunMo on October 19, 2007, 10:41:26 AM
QuoteBut when Westbrook confirmed in a WIP radio interview last week that the team currently is withholding his paychecks to recoup part of the money, he also said he is not happy about that.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20071018_Westbrook_on_paying_back_that__3M__Its_a_bad_situation.html

So that somewhat confirms that the withheld paychecks are being applied to the money he is owed, which is within their rights to do. The same would happen to you & I if our employer overpaid us & we didn't come up with a check for them.

The whole situation is f-ed up and there's enough to criticize already, but it them taking it out of his pay isn't the abnormal.

ice grillin you

actually i would bet anything that in both the nfl labor agreement and us labor laws withholding an entire check to garnish funds is not legal...people still gotta pay mortgages and car payments and grocery bills and utilities

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

SunMo

they aren't just taking it out of this pay, they are withholding his entire paycheck, that's a little different
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

ice grillin you

also its clear to me that they are witholding his check so that they can force him to sign the agreement on how to pay back the money

the key word being withhold...menaing they are holding it not keeping it
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Rome

It's semantics.

The bottom line is he's working and not getting paid for his labor.  And why?  Because the Eagles farged up.

I don't see how anyone can take the Eagles' side in this.  It's just ridiculous especially considering the ill will they're fostering with Westbrook by doing it.

It makes no sense to piss him off especially if the entire fiasco was the result of their negligence. 

Beermonkey

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on October 19, 2007, 10:44:18 AM
Well, first of all it's apples and oranges but for the sake of argument I'll respond.

I would make arrangements to pay the money back but only after all the other issues (especially the IRS and State Tax things) were resolved first.  It was their accounting error, not mine, so they shouldn't be making threats about garnishing my wages under any circumstances.

If you refused to sign off on the deal to pay them when it was already agreed upon, your employer isn't going to say "OK Romey, you take your time getting it to us.". You received money that is not owed to you, whose screw up it is is irrelevant.

It is apples and oranges because if it was you or I, our employer wouldn't lose draft picks or be fined for accidently overpaying me & not recouping it.


Quote from: Jerome99RIP on October 19, 2007, 10:44:18 AM
They screwed up royally and rather than let the situation resolve itself and lend aid to Westbrook in whatever way they can, they threaten to garnish his wages?

Didn't they come to a repayment agreement that he didn't sign off on?

Rome


Beermonkey

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on October 19, 2007, 11:05:13 AM
Shut up, moneylover.


I'm surprised Fast Freddie hasn't been more vocal in this.

Just because I don't break out the torches & pitchfork at every perceived Eagles indiscretion, don't put me in the money lover category.  :'(

Rome

It was wrong of me to refer to you as a moneylover. 

Jeffrey Lurie's Cabana Boy is a much more apt description of you.

:-D

Wingspan

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on October 19, 2007, 10:58:04 AM
I don't see how anyone can take the Eagles' side in this.  It's just ridiculous especially considering the ill will they're fostering with Westbrook by doing it.

It makes no sense to piss him off especially if the entire fiasco was the result of their negligence. 

Personally, I am not taking the eagles side on this. Like I said, I really couldnt care less about this.

But, Westbrook is being a whiner about it. According to Brookover...westbrook and the eagles came to an agreement on to how remedy this. And when it came time for westbrook to sign the agreement, he changed his mind.

The eagles then proceded to withhold money to repay the extra money paid out.

Westbrook has since said he isnt happy about it.

I would be willing to bet that westbrook was happy about the extra $3M he thought he would be getting for nothing. And now he's unhappy that he has to pay it back. Boo farging whooo. I wouldnt be happy either. 

And don't be fooled...there is not a chance in hell that westbrook did not know about the overpayment the day that it happened.

Yes, the eagles farged up. But they stand to lose more than westbrook here in leaving it uncorrected, so they will obvioulsy do more to get it ammended.
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reese125

QuoteI would be willing to bet that westbrook was happy about the extra $3M he thought he would be getting for nothing. And now he's unhappy that he has to pay it back. Boo farging whooo. I wouldnt be happy either.

cha ching! Its great when its undetected which Westbrook was praying for. Now that it was, hes trying to play hardball.

Dont play with the hand that feed you