Kevin Curtis, Mormon & Philadelphia Eagle

[Sgt PSN]

If McNabb truly made TO better, then TO wouldn't have started acting like a flamming douchebag.  Had TO not been hurt then his numbers may have seen an increase compared to previous years but part of the reason for that is because the Eagles/McNabb went out of their way to make sure that TO got his opportunities, not because McNabb "brought out the best in him" on the field.  TO didn't play inspired football because of some burning desire to earn McNabb's gratitude. 

Sorry SB, I think you're off on this one.  TO did a lot more for McNabb than the other way around. 

And this was funny.

McNabb elevates Andy.

[Feva]

Maybe it's not a case of TO "making McNabb better", but maybe stiffs like Thrash, Small, Johnson, etc... weren't there holding him back.

Generally, you have better receivers... you're going to look better as a QB.  Unless you think Peyton Manning would still be on his way to breaking all kinds of passing records with Thrash and Pinkston as his starters instead of Harrison and Wayne.

If McNabb truly made TO better, then TO wouldn't have started acting like a flamming douchebag. 

Ha!  McNabb is an NFL quarterback... not a miracle worker.  TO was averaging damn near a TD per game on a 9-1 team at the time he points to when things started to go bad.

[Sgt PSN]

If McNabb truly made TO better, then TO wouldn't have started acting like a flamming douchebag. 

Ha!  McNabb is an NFL quarterback... not a miracle worker. 

That was kind of the point.  McNabb wasn't making TO a better football player so the only way that he could have "helped" TO was to make him less of an idiot. 

[Feva]

Again... he was averaging almost a TD a game in '04... what more exactly was McNabb supposed to do for him?  How much better (after 8 years in the league) was TO gonna get?

[Sgt PSN]

TO wasn't putting up those numbers because McNabb made him a better player.  TO put up those numbers because McNabb wasn't afraid to throw to TO when covered like he was with Johnson, Small, Thrash, Pinkston, etc. 

Reid drew the gameplan up to get TO the ball.
McNabb wanted to throw to TO. 

TO did way more for McNabb than McNabb did for TO. 

[Feva]

So you're saying that because McNabb had a WR who was consistently open.... he threw that WR the ball... and good things happened.


Ahhhhh... OK.

Maybe it's not a case of TO "making McNabb better", but maybe stiffs like Thrash, Small, Johnson, etc... weren't there holding him back.

[Sgt PSN]

I think we've been arguing despite being in agreement on the main point which is TO made McNabb better. 

[Feva]

No... not exactly.  I think '04 is what McNabb would be doing year in and year out if not for being surrounded by stiffs who can't catch Herpes his whole career.

I think TO showed how bad the FO has farged up McNabb's career as far as numbers are concerned.



Yes... I actually said "stiffs who can't catch Herpes"...

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

McNabb had a nice compliment of receivers last year, and his numbers were only OK before he got injured.

[Feva]

If leading the league in TD passes, having the 2nd best QB rating of your career and being talked up as an MVP candidate is only OK... then we agree.

[Phanatic]

No... not exactly.  I think '04 is what McNabb would be doing year in and year out if not for being surrounded by stiffs who can't catch Herpes his whole career.

I think TO showed how bad the FO has farged up McNabb's career as far as numbers are concerned.



Yes... I actually said "stiffs who can't catch Herpes"...

Listen to this man!! If McNabb had a top caliber reciever to work with for even part of his career like almost every other great QB in the history of the league this would be a different story.

[Phanatic]

By 'Part of is career' I should say more then one year with someone who isn't a head case...

[Sgt PSN]

You guys OD'd on obvious pills today, didn't you? 

[Father Demon]

Feva is smart.  Sarge, not so much.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

If leading the league in TD passes, having the 2nd best QB rating of your career and being talked up as an MVP candidate is only OK... then we agree.

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