The 2007 Offseason Thread

Started by The BIGSTUD, January 14, 2007, 03:00:22 AM

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PhillyPhanInDC

Quote from: rjs246 on April 24, 2007, 09:08:20 AM
No. Irate is anyone mentioning Scott Young as a positive.

[beating a dead horse]
2007: Tra Thomas - Herremans - Jackson - Andrews - Runyan
(Scott Young at the bottom of the depth chart.)

2009: Herremans - Jean-Gilles - Jackson - Andrews - Justice
(Scott Young hocking real estate.)


farg Scott Young.
[/beating a dead horse]


That talk of moving Andrews to tackle always makes me angry too. The guy is a developing into the most dominant guard in the league......hey, let's change his postion! Manneans showed real promise when he filled in at tackle a couple of years ago, I would prefer it be as RJS stated, Herremans - Jean-Gilles - Jackson - Andrews - Justice.
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ice grillin you

the only way andrews goes to tackle is if the eagles missed on herremans and justice...because if they did who else is gonna play out there when runyan and thomas are done...which is essentially gonna happen at the same time
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PoopyfaceMcGee

Herremans has already exceeded his draft status with his play in the last two years.  I think he's definitely better-suited for RT, though... because his feet just aren't quick enough for the blind side.  Justice was drafted to be the LT after Thomas due to his uncanny athleticism, and obviously we won't know for a while yet if the pick was a hit.

The inner 3 of the line better damn well be Jean-Gilles, Jackson, and Andrews, though, once Thomas and Runyan are out of the picture.  That's a lot of meat.  If MJG can't step in and play, that would be a miss.

ice grillin you

Herremans has already exceeded his draft status with his play in the last two years.

only if they drafted him as a guard

if he goes to T one day and sucks they missed on him...and by missed im not just talking about the pick but their evaluation of him since theyve had him
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Seabiscuit36

He was damn impressive as a rookie LT until he broke his fibula.  The following year to switch a position he's played for the past 5 years at least and move into the G position and excel, he was a great value pick.  Manneans will be best suited at RT i think though mainly due to footwork. 
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ice grillin you

he was a great value pick

hes a good pick period if he stays at guard and does well or goes to tackle and does well there...4th rounders arent value picks imo...you should periodically hit on picks like that

all im saying is if he moves to tackle and sucks and they are forced to move andrews outside then they missed big on herremans...thats a lot of ifs tho...hell it could be that they have no intention of ever moving him outside
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PhillyandBCEagles

I agree, Justice at LT, manneans at RT.  Justice-MJG-Jackson-Andrews-Herremans.  Ain't nothing wrong with that.

PhillyPhanInDC

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Don Banks:
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Jarvis Moss becomes the new Jevon Kearse: Nobody has yet dubbed Moss "The Freak,'' but the Gators defensive end is a tall and athletically gifted pass rusher with top-end speed and the ability to turn the corner and close on a quarterback? Who does that sound like? If you said a young Kearse, circa 1999 when he came to the NFL as a star defensive end out of Florida and helped Tennessee get to the Super Bowl, you're paying attention.

The irony is obvious. Kearse's season-ending knee injury last year in Philadelphia might give the Eagles reason to go shopping in the first round for fresh blood at defensive end. Some think Moss won't last until the Eagles' No. 26 pick, but we do. Like Kearse, he's had trouble staying healthy in his college career, and the Eagles would want to add a little weight to his 6-6, 250-pound frame. But his arrival in Philly could mean trouble of sorts for Kearse.

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Positives: Has a tall, lanky frame with broad shoulders, tight waist and good bubble ... Moves very well coming off the edge and will bring immediate value in third-down passing situations ... Shows above-average balance and flexibility on the move and has explosive acceleration in backside pursuit ... Fluid and flexible athlete with very crisp change of direction agility ... Makes quick reads and reacts with good urgency once he locates the ball ... Despite limited reps until 2006, it is rare to see him get faked out ... Learns with normal reps and is a self-starter who puts in the extra hours after practice ... Plays with good aggression, but is best when he avoids or slips past blocks rather than trying to engage the offensive lineman (lacks the bulk and strength to control) ... Moves well off the line, getting his best production when he beats the offensive tackle coming out of his stance ... His outstanding burst off the snap allows him to gain advantage, especially when coming off the edge ... His initial step lets him beat the offensive tackle to the spot and he has that extra gear to run by them ... High energy type who closes on the ball with good pad level ... Defeats blocks with quickness rather than power ... When he gets a free lane, he has the ability to knife through and penetrate the line ... Has very good lateral movement in pursuit and is an explosive form tackler when closing on the quarterback ... Has the speed to give chase along the perimeter and good ability to sift out the ball in a pile (four forced fumbles in 2006) ... Shows very good hip snap and adequate wrap-up technique, using his long reach to make good arm tackles ... What he does best is explode off the edge and generate pressure on the pocket ... If not accounted for, he will sack the quarterback due to his speed and pad level (has excellent hip wiggle and shake to juke).

Negatives: Still trying to recover the strength and bulk that he lost while battling his pelvis injury ... Needs to add at least another 20 pounds to his frame to prevent blockers from walling him off when trying to work in-line ... Must keep his hands active, especially vs. low blocks, as he tends to get taken off his feet too much trying to slip through trash (does not protect his legs on the move) ... Plays too high on the move and this causes him to struggle in attempts to squeeze down the rush lane, and will get washed out when he tries to split double teams ... More effective playing off the edge, as he lacks the raw power to defeat blocks when lining head up on an opponent ... Struggles to disengage when working over the middle, as he is easily defeated vs. face-up blockers ... Has good flexibility, but for some reason his hips sink and his feet die when blockers get their hands into his body ... Lacks the hand strength to jerk and pull down the offensive lineman (must improve his rip and club moves, but has an efficient swim move) ... His three-year struggle with a staph infection in his pelvic bone needs further medical evaluation ... The school will not discuss suspensions, but there is a need to challenge the player on the reason he was suspended for the 2006 Western Carolina game.

Compares To: Simeon Rice, Tampa Bay ... Some experts compare him to Jevon Kearse, but while Moss has Kearse-like quickness he lacks the bulk and upper-body strength to defeat face-up blockers. Moss could possible move to outside linebacker in a 3-4 alignment, but at least brings instant value in third-down passing situations, where he can do what he does best -- penetrate off the edge to disrupt the pocket.

Video: http://broadcast.organicframework.com/p/FOX-Sports-NFL-Draft-Preview-Jarvis-Moss___425,109021.html

If they go D-Line in the first, I guess I'd be okay with Moss compared to who is projected to be there (i.e. Anthony Spencer).
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DH

EAGLES TO UNVEIL PLANS FOR 75TH ANNIVERSARY PROGRAM


Eagles officials today will announce plans for a 75th anniversary program during the upcoming season that will include the donning of blue and yellow throwback uniforms from the team's inaugural year during a regular-season game.  The Eagles will wear a special patch for all games.  The program will also include a fan vote for their favorites at all 22 positions, plus punter, kicker, special teams and coach.


phattymatty

gay.  the only reason they're not doing the kelly green is because people can and do already buy those jerseys.  by using the ugly light blue and yellow ones, they have am entire new source of income.  which is farged up and i'll probably get one.

ice grillin you

gay.  the only reason they're not doing the kelly green is because people can and do already buy those jerseys.  by using the ugly light blue and yellow ones, they have am entire new source of income.  which is farged up and i'll probably get one.

i agree gay...but its not money...the kelly green and other green throwbacks are hardly widely available...if they were to come out with those in stores like modells or sports authority and have them at replica prices it would be a virtual goldmine

the fact of the matter is lurie/banner absolutely refuse to recognize that the eagles existed before their reign...they are only even doing any of the 75 year stuff because its mandated by the league....and its no coincidence that the jersey they are choosing to go with is a jersey that is as much non eagle as humanly possible

even look at the retarded 75 year logo they came up with...a big fat new eagle head celebrating the history of the league and team??...wtf
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phattymatty

i can't imagine the reasoning behind that logo. 

"let's take our current logo and put a grey circle behind it.  oh, and then the number 75.  sweet."  *high five*

Wingspan

Quote from: ice grillin you on April 25, 2007, 10:26:34 AM
i agree gay...but its not money...the kelly green and other green throwbacks are hardly widely available...if they were to come out with those in stores like modells or sports authority and have them at replica prices it would be a virtual goldmine

Um...those exist.

You can walk into any Modells or Sports Authority now and get those. I know, I bought a kelly green mike quick last season. It was $72
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ice grillin you

ill take your word for it...ive never seen them in a models or a chain store...and the few times i have they were $150...and you cant get them at modells online for example...which is what i mean by "widely available"
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igy gettin it done like warrick

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Father Demon

Quote from: ice grillin you on April 25, 2007, 10:26:34 AM
the fact of the matter is lurie/banner absolutely refuse to recognize that the eagles existed before their reign...

That is utter malarkey.

The logo is dumb, though...  it appears as if it was done with no thought.
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