The 2007 Offseason Thread

Feva · February 28, 2007, 10:37:47 AM

Quote from: ice grillin you on February 28, 2007, 10:21:47 AM
you want me to go week by week on dhani jones since he came into the league...why did the eagles sign him in the first place and why do they continue to keep him

how about patterson....there were single drives this year where he made more bad plays than lewis has in the last two years

sheldon brown...lets cut him hes been burned numerous times over the past couple years...

dawk was abused in the run game numerous times last year

how many passes has reggie brown dropped

can you explain to me whay these guys dont get cut and in some instances actually get extended...while lewis got benched and blackballed for a far inferior guy in considine

bottom line is if lewis agrees to what the birds offered him last summer or last season hes their starting saftey for the next four years and no one is saying that hes a horrible safety

I'm not talking about any of these guys. I'm talking about you calling Mike Lewis an "above average" and a "good to very good safety", yet the Eagles want to let him walk because he wants to get paid. He's regressed terribly over the last couple years and that's why he's being shown the door.

ice grillin you · February 28, 2007, 10:40:31 AM

again...if lewis agrees to any of the eagle offers over tha last year and a half he doesnt get benched and blackballed last year and he is your starting safety for the foreseeable future...PERIOD...but he didnt so a few bad plays puts him on the bench...and he amazingly stayed on the bench thru a FIVE game period of getting destroyed by the run...for the most part when lewis played last year the team won when he didnt they lost

the point being argued is not all those other people...it's whether or not Lewis sucked in coverage. I'm saying he did, you're claiming he didn't.

the point is lots of people on the team have sucked worse than lewis...why didnt they get blackballed....can you answer that for me?

troyhstewart · February 28, 2007, 10:43:19 AM

I agree with most on here that Lewis has played poorly the last 2 seasons. If you remember correctly, most people on here were bashing both starting safeties two years ago.

ice grillin you · February 28, 2007, 10:44:33 AM

He's regressed terribly over the last couple years and that's why he's being shown the door.

absolutely not...if that was the case the eagles wouldnt have been trying to keep him into this season...he leaving because he wont agree to the eagles money...and thats fair...maybe he is way overpricing himself...no one says the eagles have to pay him what he wants and no one is saying they are making a misatke letting him go....but dont bench a guy for half a season for a far inferior player because he made a few mistakes and in the process alienating him to the point of no return....its simply bad business

ice grillin you · February 28, 2007, 11:03:09 AM

I agree with most on here that Lewis has played poorly the last 2 seasons. If you remember correctly, most people on here were bashing both starting safeties two years ago.

dont get me wrong...i wanted lewis dead after the new orleans game...but you cant let emotions get the best of you and take a few bad plays and bench a guy for a far weaker player...otherwise the whole team would be benched at some point

troyhstewart · February 28, 2007, 11:11:12 AM

I don't think it was just a few bad plays, he was a liability in coverage. I also don't believe Considine is a "far inferior player".

If he was under contract, they probably would have tried harder to hide his deficiencies. He's not, wasn't going to be, so they had to try to develop for the future.

ice grillin you · February 28, 2007, 11:16:24 AM

I don't think it was just a few bad plays, he was a liability in coverage

hes not a coverage safety...everyone knows that...perhaps the eagles shoudlnt have been putting him on an island like they were...roy williams is a liability in coverage as well...in fact roy williams makes more coverage mistakes than lewis...yet with him all you hear is overrated...while lewis shouldnt even be starting over sean considine?

If he was under contract, they probably would have tried harder to hide his deficiencies. He's not, wasn't going to be, so they had to try to develop for the future.

so instead of putting the team in the best position to win the eagles manipulate their roster by who is under contract the longest

Diomedes · February 28, 2007, 11:24:16 AM

grind that axe!!
grind that axe!!

ice grillin you · February 28, 2007, 11:25:53 AM

swallow that brain!!
swallow that brain!!

rjs246 · February 28, 2007, 11:28:06 AM

You guys are going to hump each others' mouths later, aren't you?

Diomedes · February 28, 2007, 11:29:56 AM

nah, I'm gonna titty farg his fatty man boobs and call him Mike the whole time

PoopyfaceMcGee · February 28, 2007, 12:20:10 PM

Quote from: Diomedes on February 28, 2007, 11:29:56 AM
nah, I'm gonna titty farg his fatty man boobs and call him Mike the whole time

post of the day... so far

BigEd76 · February 28, 2007, 12:21:03 PM

He wanted something similar to the 4 yrs, $25M, $11M SB that Roy Williams got and the Eagles wouldn't give it to him, so most of the Eagles beat reporters theorized that his contract situation was on his mind and he wasn't concentrating enough on football. To me that's too easy of an "if A then B", but I wouldn't discount it completely. The same thing could happen with LJ Smith this year....

PoopyfaceMcGee · February 28, 2007, 12:23:13 PM

Great players step up a notch in contract years instead of back. They're the same kinds of guys who can deliver under pressure - in 4th quarter/playoff scenarios.

Guys like Lewis that choke on it in contract years aren't the types of guys that play a key role in winning a Super Bowl.

ice grillin you · February 28, 2007, 12:27:42 PM

lewis has sucked for at least two years tho so that kinda eliminates that theory