Reid

[shorebird]

Are there still people out there who want him fired?? He's given' up the playcalling, with some pretty good results. That took a lot of humility and guts. The team is winning with Jeff Garcia at qb. How much of the credit does he deserve? He brought in Garcia to back up McNabb, and at the time I thought the move gave us a better backup than last year, but not really much of one. I was way wrong on that one, and have to give Reid props for that move.

I feel he has cemented his spot as coach of this team with what they have done since Dmac went down, even if it has come by wins against sub-par teams. Maybe with everything else he has done, the playcalling was just too much. He saw it and humbled himself. I give him credit for that.

Maybe and old dog can learn a few new tricks?

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

The jury's out.  Here are my issues with your comments, shorebird...

1.  Giving him credit for giving up the playcalling is ridiculous.  Sure, on the one side, it took him swallowing his pride to accomplish it.  But, on the other side, it meant he became incapable of calling a quality offensive gameplan.

2.  I believe the reason the team is winning with Garcia is because the Reid/McNabb lovefest has been broken up.  A situation had been created where there was so much trust and comfort that neither one really cared anymore when they messed up.  Now, you put a guy in there who desperately wants to win, and the whole competitive nature of the team is mixed up.  If McNabb had an ounce of the competitive fire that Garcia's using, the Eagles would have won a few Super Bowls by now.


We know Reid isn't going anywhere until something a lot worse than this season happens.  Him and Lurie are thick as thieves, along with McNabb.  At this point, I'm hoping that mixing it up with Garcia this year creates a magical finish to the season, because we're back to same old same old for another couple years after this one.

[Sgt PSN]

I still want him gone.   I'm sick of him. 

[Rome]

If McNabb had an ounce of the competitive fire that Garcia's using, the Eagles would have won a few Super Bowls by now.

That's ridiculous, dude.  McNabb has every bit the same amount of fire as Garcia does.  He expresses it differently but he still has it.

[Geowhizzer]

I was going to post this a few days ago, but forgot by the time I got back online.

Colin Cowherd proclaimed two coaches that he felt deserved Coach of the Year:  Eric Mangini and our own Andy Reid.

He basically called Philly fans that wanted Reid fired idiots (not exact words, but the general message).

[Philly_Crew]

Reid has been the best coach the Eagles have had since Vermeil.  I think he can be the one that wins us a bowl.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

He expresses it differently but he still has it.

Projectile vomiting?

I was going to post this a few days ago, but forgot by the time I got back online.

Colin Cowherd proclaimed two coaches that he felt deserved Coach of the Year:  Eric Mangini and our own Andy Reid.

He basically called Philly fans that wanted Reid fired idiots (not exact words, but the general message).

Colin Cowherd isn't exactly lighting the world on fire with his genius.  He's much more entertainer/talking head than he is analyst.

[Rome]

I'm done defending Reid.  If McNabb was still playing Reid would still be running the same scattershot bullshtein offense where 7/10 plays are passes.  The only reason he's changed the philosophy is because he's had no other choice. 

If the proverbial light bulb has finally gone off over his head, and he's come to understand that the running game is an integral part of the game, and not just an annoyance deserving of only lip service, then yeah, I'd be happy as a fan if Reid stuck around. 

But we all know that isn't the truth of the matter.  Not by a long shot.

[Geowhizzer]

He expresses it differently but he still has it.

Projectile vomiting?

I was going to post this a few days ago, but forgot by the time I got back online.

Colin Cowherd proclaimed two coaches that he felt deserved Coach of the Year:  Eric Mangini and our own Andy Reid.

He basically called Philly fans that wanted Reid fired idiots (not exact words, but the general message).

Colin Cowherd isn't exactly lighting the world on fire with his genius.  He's much more entertainer/talking head than he is analyst.

That is correct.  I can usually only take about 10 minutes of his schtick before I want to chuck my XM radio out the car window.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

That's about 9 1/2 more minutes than I can take of Stephen A. Smith.

[shorebird]

The jury's out.  Here are my issues with your comments, shorebird...

1.  Giving him credit for giving up the playcalling is ridiculous.  Sure, on the one side, it took him swallowing his pride to accomplish it.  But, on the other side, it meant he became incapable of calling a quality offensive gameplan.

2.  I believe the reason the team is winning with Garcia is because the Reid/McNabb lovefest has been broken up.  A situation had been created where there was so much trust and comfort that neither one really cared anymore when they messed up.  Now, you put a guy in there who desperately wants to win, and the whole competitive nature of the team is mixed up.  If McNabb had an ounce of the competitive fire that Garcia's using, the Eagles would have won a few Super Bowls by now.


We know Reid isn't going anywhere until something a lot worse than this season happens.  Him and Lurie are thick as thieves, along with McNabb.  At this point, I'm hoping that mixing it up with Garcia this year creates a magical finish to the season, because we're back to same old same old for another couple years after this one.

1. I agree with the statement that he's been incapable of calling a quality offensive game plan, but I have to give him credit for realizing it and taking one for the team.

2. The comfort level you talk about has seemed to work against the team. No one knows what goes on behind closed doors, but I don't think a coach like Parcells, or even Vermil would say nothing when McNabb screws up and then laughs and smiles about it. Hell, there isn't a qb in the league who does that, and it is the one thing about Dmac that really pisses me off. Parcells would prolly' read him the riot act and wouldn't care if it was on the sidelines or not. McNabb needs someone to call him out once in a while, lite a fire under him. Keep him honest. I don't know that the person to do that is Reid, but I still like him as a coach. Let's hope he sees what is happening now and puts the experiance to good us next year.

[Sgt PSN]

I've got 2 major concerns with Reid and why I want him gone:

1.  Yes, it's a good thing that he handed off the play calling to Marty.  But I suspect that the minute McNabb returns to the field, Andy will resume the play calling duties and go back to doing what he's always done:  Put the entire load on McNabb.  Reid has shown that he can be a very effective playcaller with McNabb in the lineup and can mix things up pretty well.  But more often than not, he puts all the pressure on McNabb.  And with a guy like Westbrook in the backfield, there's no reason to do that.

2.  My other concern is his general attitude and demeanor.  He has no attitude or personality.  This team has no attitude or personality and that is a big part of the problem with these guys.  I am so sick of watching these players quietly walk back to the huddle or to the sidelines after dropping a pass, missing a block or missing a tackle.  The best quote from Remember the Titans:  "Attitude reflects leadership."  I can't think of anything more appropriate to say.  This teams non chelant (sp?) attitude about everything is a direct reflection of the leadership they follow.  I've had enough. 

[Sgt PSN]

1. I agree with the statement that he's been incapable of calling a quality offensive game plan, but I have to give him credit for realizing it and taking one for the team.

I would have given him credit for giving up the playcalling 3 or 4 years ago when he was still a some what young coach.  Not now.  I give him no credit for giving it up now.  Give up the playcalling when this team had dominant players on it and had a legitimate chance at winning something.  Don't do it when your team is mediocre and your starting QB is on the sidelines.

[Butchers Bill]

I'm done defending Reid.  If McNabb was still playing Reid would still be running the same scattershot bullshtein offense where 7/10 plays are passes.  The only reason he's changed the philosophy is because he's had no other choice. 

If the proverbial light bulb has finally gone off over his head, and he's come to understand that the running game is an integral part of the game, and not just an annoyance deserving of only lip service, then yeah, I'd be happy as a fan if Reid stuck around. 

But we all know that isn't the truth of the matter.  Not by a long shot.

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Truth...100%.

At this point I want Reid to be relieved of GM duties in the offseason and David Culley, Pete Jenkins, and Jim Johnson fired.

[ice grillin you]

That's ridiculous, dude.  McNabb has every bit the same amount of fire as Garcia does.  He expresses it differently but he still has it.

NO!



anyway....worst thread ever...the people who wanted reid fired three games ago still want him gone and the people that love him want him to stay...do you honestly think the last three wins have changed anything?