Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

[ATV]

2nd amendment intent was to insure that state miltias would have an adequate supply of armed civilians that could be quickly called up in the event of another foreign invasion.

Other first-world nations do not have crazy farged up guns laws like we do here.

[rjs246]

there's plenty of liberal thinking gun owners out there and i'd love to see all of them join the nra and take over. 

This is how I feel and I'm joining the revolution for exactly this purpose. Besides IGY tells me that there's a war brewing between MA and the northeast. I need to figure out which side I'm on and get ready to snipe some bitches.

[rjs246]

2nd amendment intent was to insure that state miltias would have an adequate supply of armed civilians that could be quickly called up in the event of another foreign invasion.

That's revisionist history. The other side claims that the 2nd amendment was designed to protect us from an oppressive government. Which is probably also revisionist history. The bottom line is that we have a right to own guns and the NRA works to protect that right. Try to look at things without an extremist agenda for three seconds every now and then.

[Rome]

I think it's fair to say I'm about as leftist as anyone here but if it's possible I'm further right than Chuck Heston when it comes to guns.  No one is telling me I can't own one.  Not when criminals have little to no problem getting as many as they want whenever they want them.

[Diomedes]

when they decided to defend nambla,...that church that was protesting at military funerals and basically holding up signs saying that they were glad that a soldier died.

No one likes these people.  The fact that the ACLU defended their constitutional rights does not amount to an endorsement of the organizations or their views, just as a defense attorney does not endorse his murderous client; in both cases the thing being defended is not the individual but the constitution, which is to say the rights of all people.

Without the ACLU, we're in much deeper shtein than we are now, not least because people like you would allow the rights of odious people to be infringed, thereby surrendering your own rights by extension.  If the ACLU doesn't defend that church, and their rights to peaceful protest are abrogated, then who's next?  Who'd deciding which groups are not allowed to excersize their constitutional rights?

Regarding the NRA, I'd love to see a liberal infustion and take over.  We are armed too, we just don't talk about to everyone.  My probelm with them is that they have done very f'n little to show anything like a reasonable position regarding guns.  They fight to have the broadest possible access to any kind of firearm...they'd be happy for citizens to have grenade launchers and sharks with laser beams if they could.  Nor do I see them doing anything meaningful about lobbying governemnt to do something about gun crimes.  We just had a dude in Baltimore busted for selling illegal firearms out of an Utz chip stand in Lexington market.  His sentence: 15 months in prison.  Fifteen lousy months for supplying illegal guns to criminals....where the farg is the NRA on this?  Dude should be in prison for 40 years minimum.

[Seabiscuit36]

I joined the NRA a few months back, it was free, and they've given me a ton of free shtein just for joining.  I'm with RJS, to take over the NRA away from the loonies would be nice.  Sarge, you cant get full auto guns legally unless you are an owner of an ClassIII license, and you have to own a gun store to do that.  Now i can go down to TX and find AK's that are full auto i'm sure, but the ATF will rip you a new icehole, and its not worth it unless the zombies come. 

Dio, that guy's sentence made no sense at all, and the fact that guns are obtained illegally annoys the shtein outta me.  I've said it before, in MD you have some very liberal laws, but they make sense.  You buy a handgun, its taken to the State Police for them to do ballistics testing.  You need to take a course on handgun safety and laws, and go thru the background check process.  I'm fine with that, but what pisses me off is some guy selling shtein illegally,and people getting shtein illegally.  Not to mention those guns are usually cheaper because they're hot. 

[Diomedes]

It's an outrage that people get more time for dealing pot than for dealing guns.  The NRA has done nothing to change that.

[Seabiscuit36]

Agree.  Two things that should change is herb is decriminalized/legalized and gun laws need to get tighter as far as penalties and jail time.  You commit a crime with a gun, then you get more years period.  If said gun is not legal, you get x amount of extra years. 

[ATV]

That's revisionist history.

Nope. That's the fact.

All these other first-world nations SUCK because they don't allow their citizens to tote around loaded hand guns in public. SUCK. This is just another case of where they're all wrong and we're the right ones. Just like with Iraq's WMD, health care for all, Palestine, and non carbonated beer. Baby Jesus died for our right to keep AK7s beneath our bed. And nobody better lay a finger on my slaves because we were just fine for the first hundred and fifty years. What was good enough for them is good enough for everyone.

[Diomedes]

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[shorebird]

when they decided to defend nambla,...that church that was protesting at military funerals and basically holding up signs saying that they were glad that a soldier died.

No one likes these people.  The fact that the ACLU defended their constitutional rights does not amount to an endorsement of the organizations or their views, just as a defense attorney does not endorse his murderous client; in both cases the thing being defended is not the individual but the constitution, which is to say the rights of all people.

Without the ACLU, we're in much deeper shtein than we are now, not least because people like you would allow the rights of odious people to be infringed, thereby surrendering your own rights by extension.  If the ACLU doesn't defend that church, and their rights to peaceful protest are abrogated, then who's next?  Who'd deciding which groups are not allowed to excersize their constitutional rights?

Regarding the NRA, I'd love to see a liberal infustion and take over.  We are armed too, we just don't talk about to everyone.  My probelm with them is that they have done very f'n little to show anything like a reasonable position regarding guns.  They fight to have the broadest possible access to any kind of firearm...they'd be happy for citizens to have grenade launchers and sharks with laser beams if they could.  Nor do I see them doing anything meaningful about lobbying governemnt to do something about gun crimes.  We just had a dude in Baltimore busted for selling illegal firearms out of an Utz chip stand in Lexington market.  His sentence: 15 months in prison.  Fifteen lousy months for supplying illegal guns to criminals....where the farg is the NRA on this?  Dude should be in prison for 40 years minimum.

I've been a NRA member for just about all of my adult life, and couldn't agree more with these comments. Seems that now the NRA is more about having the right to have as many guns as you possibly can, like 100's. Unless you're a collector and don't fire them, you don't need 100's of guns.

Also, I'd love to see more liberals join. It's always good for any kind of orginization to have members with different views and opinions on any kind of issues.

[rjs246]

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Couldn't have said it better myself.

[rjs246]

when they decided to defend nambla,...that church that was protesting at military funerals and basically holding up signs saying that they were glad that a soldier died.

No one likes these people.  The fact that the ACLU defended their constitutional rights does not amount to an endorsement of the organizations or their views, just as a defense attorney does not endorse his murderous client; in both cases the thing being defended is not the individual but the constitution, which is to say the rights of all people.

Without the ACLU, we're in much deeper shtein than we are now, not least because people like you would allow the rights of odious people to be infringed, thereby surrendering your own rights by extension.  If the ACLU doesn't defend that church, and their rights to peaceful protest are abrogated, then who's next?  Who'd deciding which groups are not allowed to excersize their constitutional rights?

Regarding the NRA, I'd love to see a liberal infustion and take over.  We are armed too, we just don't talk about to everyone.  My probelm with them is that they have done very f'n little to show anything like a reasonable position regarding guns.  They fight to have the broadest possible access to any kind of firearm...they'd be happy for citizens to have grenade launchers and sharks with laser beams if they could.  Nor do I see them doing anything meaningful about lobbying governemnt to do something about gun crimes.  We just had a dude in Baltimore busted for selling illegal firearms out of an Utz chip stand in Lexington market.  His sentence: 15 months in prison.  Fifteen lousy months for supplying illegal guns to criminals....where the farg is the NRA on this?  Dude should be in prison for 40 years minimum.

I've been a NRA member for just about all of my adult life, and couldn't agree more with these comments. Seems that now the NRA is more about having the right to have as many guns as you possibly can, like 100's. Unless you're a collector and don't fire them, you don't need 100's of guns.

Also, I'd love to see more liberals join. It's always good for any kind of orginization to have members with different views and opinions on any kind of issues.

Best post thread quote post ever.

[shorebird]

when they decided to defend nambla,...that church that was protesting at military funerals and basically holding up signs saying that they were glad that a soldier died.

No one likes these people.  The fact that the ACLU defended their constitutional rights does not amount to an endorsement of the organizations or their views, just as a defense attorney does not endorse his murderous client; in both cases the thing being defended is not the individual but the constitution, which is to say the rights of all people.

Without the ACLU, we're in much deeper shtein than we are now, not least because people like you would allow the rights of odious people to be infringed, thereby surrendering your own rights by extension.  If the ACLU doesn't defend that church, and their rights to peaceful protest are abrogated, then who's next?  Who'd deciding which groups are not allowed to excersize their constitutional rights?

Regarding the NRA, I'd love to see a liberal infustion and take over.  We are armed too, we just don't talk about to everyone.  My probelm with them is that they have done very f'n little to show anything like a reasonable position regarding guns.  They fight to have the broadest possible access to any kind of firearm...they'd be happy for citizens to have grenade launchers and sharks with laser beams if they could.  Nor do I see them doing anything meaningful about lobbying governemnt to do something about gun crimes.  We just had a dude in Baltimore busted for selling illegal firearms out of an Utz chip stand in Lexington market.  His sentence: 15 months in prison.  Fifteen lousy months for supplying illegal guns to criminals....where the farg is the NRA on this?  Dude should be in prison for 40 years minimum.

I've been a NRA member for just about all of my adult life, and couldn't agree more with these comments. Seems that now the NRA is more about having the right to have as many guns as you possibly can, like 100's. Unless you're a collector and don't fire them, you don't need 100's of guns.

Also, I'd love to see more liberals join. It's always good for any kind of orginization to have members with different views and opinions on any kind of issues.

Best post thread quote post ever.

Except for my crappy spelling. sp?organizationsp?

[ATV]

Best post thread quote post ever.

Douche?