Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

[MadMarchHare]

oops

Catch the look McCain gives her in the last couple seconds of that clip?

"Jesus, I'm a senile idiot, and I know what you're saying is complete bullshtein.  What have I done?"

[rjs246]

I guess this probably belongs here...

As though we needed more proof that women are crazy and shouldn't be allowed to vote.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Have fun with this FF,.....

http://hamptonroads.com/2008/09/text-and-video-joe-gibbs-speech-republican-convention

I think the file name makes it clear that I will not be clicking that link.

[Cerevant]

Now here's a fiscal conservative for you - Alaska..:

is #1 in per capita taxes
is #1 in per capita spending
is #1 in per capita government spending
is #1 in federal funds received vs. federal taxes collected
has a windfall tax on Oil

[ice grillin you]

yeah she gets saved from that oil tax...i will say tho she gave 1200 bucks to every man women and child in the state from it...that cant be ignored

[Cerevant]

That's $1200 on top of the $2000 they already got.  You know, that the rest of us paid for.

So, if they have such a state surplus that they can cut a check to the tune of $21M $2.4B in cash back to the residents, Why the farg do they need $27M in federal pork for a town of 6000 people?

edit: duh, 700,000 * $3500 = 2.45 billion

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Oil is power.

[Cerevant]

Hillary on the warpath

...returning Republicans to the White House "is like asking the iceberg to save the Titanic."

[rjs246]

So, I've remained more or less nuetral for the last few months. Basically since Obama voted in favor of FISA. I was never going to vote for McCain, but it had little to do with Obama recently and a lot more to do with my belief that the country must go in a new direction. With all of that in mind, these are my recent observations:

- Obama's unwillingness to badmouth his opponent or get too politically dirty, while very admirable, is hurting him a lot and may ultimately turn voters off who want a change but also want a 'strong' figure in the White House.

- Obama's campaign may be overly hopeful in what they can accomplish. In fact, a lot of what they seem to want seems unlikely to happen or to be successful if it does happen.

- McCain's campaign, on the other hand, doesn't seem to have its own message or plan other than to strike out at Obama's plan. Even worse, from what I can gather, the McCain capaign is simply taking Obama's campaign plan and repeating it as their own, sometimes in very confusing ways. Obama said that the country needs change for months, and then McCain started talking about change. Obama spoke (accurately or not) about working across the aisle, and then McCain spoke (accurately or not) about working across the aisle. It might be some sort of brilliant political move, but no one seems to be really talking about it and I don't understand how that could be. There's a very clear pattern of Obama touching on something that people like and McCain coming in and saying "Me too!"

- The biggest thing that I've noticed, however, is that the McCain campaign is not being truthful about who they are. Obama, to his credit, has not shied away from who he is or what he is. It's easier for him to do that because he doesn't have a decades long political career with poor decisions and mistakes to hide from, but he and Joe Biden are who they are and don't sell themselves as anything else. McCain, is selling himself as a reformer and bi-partisan champion, which he isn't, as proven by decades of political record. They're selling Palin as a lot of things, none of which seem to be true. I am constantly getting the impression that the Republican campaign is lying to me. And it isn't even that they are lying maliciously, but rather that they are lying because they're desperate to win and have no idea how to do it on a Republican platform. They know that people don't want more of the same bullshtein from their party, so they don't want to tout Republican ideals too much, but they seem to be jumping on the Democratic party's bandwagon and just hoping that everyone who once voted Republican will blindly vote Republican again.

- My conclusion is that the republicans are running a really sloppy skattershot campaign that is somehow keeping them in the race because people are idiots.

[ice grillin you]

i know i sound like a broken record but the pubs can do whatever they want because they know the  country is not yet in a place where they are ready to elect a brother

i couldnt agree more about your first point..barry is almost morphing into kerry mode with his lack of aggression...the problem is america does not want to see a angry strong black guy going after an older white guy or god forbid a white women.....hes stuck btwn a rock and a hard place right now and theres no way to get out

ive said it before and ill say it again until i see another reason why this can be happening...a horrible republican ticket is trying to follow an even worse republican president during an unpopular war a housing crisis a bad market and a generally inept economy and yet mccain is WINNING...

someone....anyone...give me another reason why and how this is happening

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

The best reason is that Obama's agenda is too drastic to attract moderates.  There are still a few people that will vote for "anyone but the Republicans" thanks to Bush, but Obama is not really a viable alternative to someone against big government.

Obama talks of the "new majority," but that is really just his way of saying that he wants more people to be solid Liberal Democrats.  He does not have an agenda that reaches out to centrists, and that is the segment of the population in which he's getting battered in the polls.

Obama is still going to win, by the way.  I'm willing to up the $20 to $50 if you are.

[rjs246]

Again, though, from a conservative viewpoint, you are talking about the negative aspects of Obama's ideas rather than the positive aspects of the McCain campaign. And that seems to be the norm. Deflect all attention away from the fact that McCain doesn't really have any sort of plan and doesn't really understand the financial challenges facing the country by saying, "Well Obama's plan won't work. Vote for me instead."

[Seabiscuit36]

sadly i agree, and i never thought it'd be this tough.  4 years ago, i though barry was just a name, and it amazes me how the republicans have gone about taking every one of his stances, and pulled a Howard Stern on him

[ice grillin you]

The best reason is that Obama's agenda is too drastic to attract moderates.  There are still a few people that will vote for "anyone but the Republicans" thanks to Bush, but Obama is not really a viable alternative to someone against big government.

Obama talks of the "new majority," but that is really just his way of saying that he wants more people to be solid Liberal Democrats.  He does not have an agenda that reaches out to centrists, and that is the segment of the population in which he's getting battered in the polls.

Obama is still going to win, by the way.  I'm willing to up the $20 to $50 if you are.

yeah im in for 50

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Again, though, from a conservative viewpoint, you are talking about the negative aspects of Obama's ideas rather than the positive aspects of the McCain campaign. And that seems to be the norm. Deflect all attention away from the fact that McCain doesn't really have any sort of plan and doesn't really understand the financial challenges facing the country by saying, "Well Obama's plan won't work. Vote for me instead."

McCain has always been better than most Washington politicians on reducing spending.  His record is better than anything he's talking about in his campaign.  Additionally, as I've mentioned, the tax plans are hugely different when it comes to capital gains, estate, and corporate taxes.

yeah im in for 50

Now, we have ourselves a bet.