Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

[mussa]

Obama? McCain? We're all farged

[Phanatic]

Just for the sake of accuracy McCain voted against the Bush tax cuts and said he still would vote against them because he feels they did not decrease spending. He was only one of two republicans who did.

[ice grillin you]

he voted against them in 2001 and 03


but he has said during this campaign he will extend them if elected president

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

He will extend them and cut other spending to pay for them, supposedly.

The hair he's splitting is that he isn't for them without a balancing the budget.

[Cerevant]

lol clinton beat dole by over 200 electoral votes

That's the point genius: 8.5% = massive landslide.  3-5% lead is pretty solid.

this race is probably going to come down to a state or two

That's just ignoring the facts.  Give me a scenario where this is going to happen.  I've already pointed out that he would have to lose at least 10 out of 12 states where he leads or is tied for it to be close.

hell some people are even predicting we could have a electoral tie

Link?  There is zero evidence to support this theory.  fivethirtyeight.com puts the odds at 0.51% (he successfully predicted almost every primary result after super tuesday).

again this should be clinton dole right now and it isnt...things that make you go hmmmm

Things to make you go hmmm continued:
* Clinton was a successful incumbent, so he had name recognition and popularity already.  Obama is still trying to convince people he's not Muslim.
* In 1992, Clinton also won by 200 EV against an incumbant, but his early campaign was not quite the knockout you expect:

After Bill Clinton secured the Democratic Nomination in the Spring of 1992, polls showed Ross Perot leading the race, followed by President Bush, with Clinton in third place after a grueling nomination process.

* John McCain has had the opportunity to fundraise and campaign unopposed for several months yet he's already lost all advantage he had in either of those areas.
* Obama is black
* Obama is fighting a significant media bias against him

All of these factors working against him, and Obama still has a significant lead. 

[ice grillin you]

fivethirtyeight.com

haha...what is that some nova scotia based website trying to predict an american presidential election?

[Cerevant]

fivethirtyeight.com

haha...what is that some nova scotia based website trying to predict an american presidential election?

I'll take that ad hominem argument as concession that my other points are correct.

As for 538?  He was running it anonymously for awhile, but then announced it publicly:

My real name is Nate Silver and my principal occupation has been as a writer, analyst and partner at a sports media company called Baseball Prospectus. What we do over there and what I'm doing over here are really quite similar. Both baseball and politics are data-driven industries. But a lot of the time, that data might be used badly. In baseball, that may mean looking at a statistic like batting average when things like on-base percentage and slugging percentage are far more correlated with winning ballgames. In politics, that might mean cherry-picking a certain polling result or weaving together a narrative that isn't supported by the demographic evidence.

He was since interviewed by Newsweek.

Maybe if you did a little research and presented some facts to back up your arguments, you might not look so silly with your mindless predictions of doom.

[ice grillin you]

didnt really pay attention to any of your points...there were way to many of them for starters and as a general rule of thumb i dont discuss my countrys politics with foreigners...especially canucks

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

American citizen, living in Canada, supports the same candidate you support


Why the hostility?  It's not his fault you're a hammerhead, and it's not your fault he's been feasting on Obama's turds the entire election.  Just hug it out.

[ice grillin you]

no hostility...i just hate canadians

[Cerevant]

American citizen, living in Canada, supports the same candidate you support

Why the hostility?  It's not his fault you're a hammerhead, and it's not your fault he's been feasting on Obama's turds the entire election.  Just hug it out.

A bit of a fallacy.  I have spent a lot of time defending Obama primarily because VIGY has been sitting in his mom's basement trolling since the beginning of the primaries.  I agree with Obama on a lot of issues, but a few times this year he's really pissed me off.  No question in my mind, though, that he's better for the country than McBush.

I've corrected him enough times on the "Canadian" bullshtein that he and everyone else on the board know the story.  Now he just does it because he thinks it pisses me off.

At 22 he's still too arrogant to understand how to make a coherent argument.  When he grows up a bit he might just have a good head on his shoulders.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

You don't really know him either, apparently.  22 he is not.

[ice grillin you]

You don't really know him either, apparently.  22 he is not.

now you know why i dont associate myself with moose fargers

[Cerevant]

You don't really know him either, apparently.  22 he is not.

Turn your irony meter back on.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

"Bear farger!  Do you need assistance?"