Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

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Cerevant

But what does Obama know about foreign policy?  Although I'm sure someone will be able to spin this as Obama accepting an endorsement from terrorists.

QuoteLAGOS (Reuters) - Rebels who have stepped up attacks on Nigeria's oil industry in the last month said on Sunday they were considering a ceasefire appeal by U.S. presidential hopeful Barack Obama.

The Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta (MEND) has launched five attacks on oil facilities in the Niger Delta since it resumed a campaign of violence in April, forcing Royal Dutch Shell to shut more than 164,000 barrels of oil per day (bpd).

"The MEND command is seriously considering a temporary ceasefire appeal by Senator Barack Obama. Obama is someone we respect and hold in high esteem," the militant group said in an e-mailed statement.
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Father Demon

Quote from: Cerevant on May 06, 2008, 03:25:51 PM
But what does Obama know about foreign policy?  Although I'm sure someone will be able to spin this as Obama accepting an endorsement from terrorists.

QuoteLAGOS (Reuters) - Rebels who have stepped up attacks on Nigeria's oil industry in the last month said on Sunday they were considering a ceasefire appeal by U.S. presidential hopeful Barack Obama.

The Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta (MEND) has launched five attacks on oil facilities in the Niger Delta since it resumed a campaign of violence in April, forcing Royal Dutch Shell to shut more than 164,000 barrels of oil per day (bpd).

"The MEND command is seriously considering a temporary ceasefire appeal by Senator Barack Obama. Obama is someone we respect and hold in high esteem," the militant group said in an e-mailed statement.

Well, he is one of them.  Of course they hold him in high esteem.
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fansince61

Quote from: Cerevant on May 06, 2008, 03:25:51 PM
But what does Obama know about foreign policy?  Although I'm sure someone will be able to spin this as Obama accepting an endorsement from terrorists.

This does not need spinning

ice grillin you

Quote from: rjs246 on May 06, 2008, 03:12:41 PM
Please try not to ruin my points by insisting that 'Conservative' is synonymous with 'Racist'. Thank you.


Please learn and understand the definition of analogy.  Thank you.
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rjs246

It's got the word anal in it, so I'm intrigued.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

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MDS

Indiana too close to call so far and NC should be a Barry solid win. I wonder if he can basically make the delegates lost in PA up today.
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PoopyfaceMcGee

They're not going to call Indiana until all the polls close, but Hillary will still win by 6-7.

shorebird

Hey Igy, ever hear of a man  named Everett Alvarez?

shorebird

Being as no one seems to have heard of him, here is the low down. He was the first POW in Vietnam. He was held for 8 years. He was an American of Mexican descent. His grandparents were Mexican immagrants. He was a Navy aviator who was shot down in 1964. He ended up in the Hanoi Hilton.

When the Vietnamease at the Hanoi Hilton asked John McCain if he wanted to go home early, guess which POW was the first one he told them to let go ahead of him?

The way you go on and on about racism, it makes you look racist.

shorebird

Everett Alvarez

From John McCain, Prisoner of War, First Person Account

QuoteSuddenly "The Cat" said to me, "Do you want to go home?"

I was astonished, and I tell you frankly that I said that I would have to think about it. I went back to my room, and I thought about it for a long time. At this time I did not have communication with the camp senior ranking officer, so I could get no advice. I was worried whether I could stay alive or not, because I was in rather bad condition. I had been hit with a severe case of dysentery, which kept on for about a year and a half. I was losing weight again.

But I knew that the Code of Conduct says, "You will not accept parole or amnesty," and that "you will not accept special favors." For somebody to go home earlier is a special favor. There's no other way you can cut it.

I went back to him three nights later. He asked again, "Do you want to go home?" I told him "No." He wanted to know why, and I told him the reason. I said that Alvarez [first American captured] should go first, then enlisted men and that kind of stuff.


QuoteBut the primary thing I considered was that I had no right to go ahead of men like Alvarez, who had been there three years before I "got killed"—that's what we say instead of "before I got shot down," because in a way becoming a prisoner in North Vietnam was like being killed.

McCain is a lot of things, he's a little nuts, imo. He has a terrible temper, which might not bode too well for a president. He's a died in the wool military man, so if he ever was elected it would more than likely mean we'd be in Iraq indefinatly.

But racist? I don't think so.


shorebird

I'd like to throw my opinion out there on the polls also. I don't think that any poll piting McCain against either Democratic canidate means anything at all. Wait until either Obama or Clinton are going head to head with McCain, and all the dirt is layed out. Then they might mean something.

Cerevant

The current polls do not say "this is who will win in November".  The polls show the starting point for the campaign for the general election.  Of course a big event can shift things dramatically - that's not the point.  The point of looking at those polls is to find the baseline and to set up the trends.

Oh, BTW, the meaningless polls seem to have predicted these two primaries pretty accurately.  It will be interesting to see how close the final numbers in Indiana are.  At this point, Obama could still eek it out...

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PhillyGirl

Obama is eeking REALLY close to her in IN.

And the votes still out are pretty much votes that look like Obama-type counties.
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Cerevant

It all comes down to the turn out in Lake county, which has reported no returns yet.  There are more than enough votes there for Obama to take the lead.
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PhillyGirl

Quote from: Cerevant on May 06, 2008, 10:09:47 PM
It all comes down to the turn out in Lake county, which has reported no returns yet.  There are more than enough votes there for Obama to take the lead.

over 300,000 votes....and its a 40,000 margin right now...and Lake county...Obama leaning, no?
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