Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

Started by PoopyfaceMcGee, December 11, 2006, 01:30:30 PM

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ice grillin you

if he wants to win he wont take christie

not sure if palin is a good example....she was a horrible pick just like christie would be....but at least there were on the surface valid reasons to choose her....she was the opposite of McCain....super right wing/tea party....young...pretty....energetic...

christie basically IS trump except that he has no appeal whatsoever to anyone...he doesn't move the needle even a little bit....you gain absolutely nothing by choosing him
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

SD

Trump doesn't need to move the needle, his base is his base and no matter who he choses isn't going to change that...he's an egomaniac who needs a lapdog. Christie is perfect.

ice grillin you

yeah he absolutely does need to move the needle to win....his negatives are off the charts even with many republicans

his base isn't winning the election...his base is basically a rebranded tea party....angry whites who think their country has been taken away from them....he needs to expand that base and christie doesn't do that even a little

its why a perceived "moderate" like kasich would be perfect...he would win ohio which is pretty much a must....and in theory he would attract middle american establishment republicans as well as reagan democrats
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Eagles_Legendz

It would be interesting to see if Kasich would take that.  I think a lot of people who like him like myself would lose a lot of respect for him if he took a VP slot with Trump.  I also get why Trump would target him, but I can't think of a less obvious voter overlap within the GOP than the people supporting Trump & people supporting Kasich.

smeags

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It would make sense for trump but no, no way he can join that clown show.
If guns kill people then spoons made Rosie O'Donnel a fatass.

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 16, 2008, 03:38:24 PM
phillies will be under 500 this year...book it

MDS

Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

Rome

Kasich is not a moderate.  He's as ugly as the rest of the GOP imbecile parade. 

Diomedes

I think Trump needs to put a woman on the ticket.

Michelle Bachman
Jan Brewer
Sarah Palin

There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

Rome


PhillyPhreak54

Oh that would be rich...any of those beaut's would really push the ticket

Eagles_Legendz

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Quote from: Rome on March 02, 2016, 01:48:09 PM
Kasich is not a moderate.  He's as ugly as the rest of the GOP imbecile parade.

Hyperbole is pointless.  We can argue about whether he's "moderate" but to equate him to Cruz / Trump is dumb.  His most right wing stance is on abortion.

After that he's against gay marriage personally but says it's settled and time to move on & that he'd have no issue if his daughters were gay.

He's the only major GOP candidate who acknowledges problems with police and their treatment of black communities. 

Took Medicaid expansion with Obamacare.  Said he wouldn't rip the Iran deal up d1.  His fiscal policies are reasonable.   Favors legalization of illegal immigrants.  And talks repeatedly about the need for bipartisanship and working with Dems. 

That absolutely comes close to "moderate", especially with how far right the GOP is.  The thing I like about Kasich is he seems willing to listen to people.  He took anti union stances in Ohio, voters balked, and he said he would change his policy because he wants to represent the will of voters.  Too few people do that in politics.

Rome

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/11/john-kasich-ohio-moderate-voting-record-republican-president-campaign

I can post a hundred different articles like this.  The Republican Party has moved so far right that a guy like Kasich is actually viewed as a moderate.  He's not.  His record as governor is that of a hard-core Tea Party Christian Jihadist. 

Eagles_Legendz

Yeah I've read that article before.  If you actually read it it literally reiterates what I just said.  The most extreme stance he has is he's a standard pro-life candidate.  It also talks about his issue with unions which I've explained.  See what you want with it but you're as bad as people you're condemning if you think he's a Christian jihadist.  Everything in my original post is true.

Eagles_Legendz

To say he's a hardcore Tea Party jihadist and in the same article which you cite as condemning him says this -

"In a Republican field where candidates are competing in tough-guy rhetoric on bombing Islamic State, building impregnable borders and barring Muslims from entering the country, Kasich's record on many key issues is more moderate and nuanced than many of his competitors – which actually puts him at risk of being unable to attract the conservative voters as the race goes on.

Kasich does not believe in deporting illegal immigrants, providing they have been law-abiding since arriving in the US, and said Trump's idea to ban Muslims from America would weaken the US and "is not what we are".

And he accepted extra Medicaid dollars from the federal government distributed under the Affordable Care Act, even though he has since boasted he would "repeal Obamacare" if he reaches the White House.

Kasich fell out with the Koch brothers, rightwing mega-donors, over pointed comments he made at a fundraising event about how people needed to be accountable for what they had done for the poor when they "get to the pearly gates".

And he consistently talks about getting things done, fixing problems and working together being more important than party politics.

He has strongly opposed same-sex marriage but said he accepted the supreme court's decision last summer that made it legal across all states and said it was time for the country to accept that reality and "move on".

And Kasich has acknowledged climate change – although he maintains he does not know if the actions of humankind are driving it, and he does not support action to curb emissions by regulating traditional energy producers."

Is silly.  He's a republican.  Fine.  But give me a break.

Diomedes

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You can't be much more liberal than Kasich and still be considered a Republican.  That's not his fault.  The rest of the party has lurched to the right and so he is by definition moderate.  He's also the closest thing to a reasonable person if you watch and listen to them all.  He's not a robot, or a clown, or a vampire.

If the Republican party had any sense, they could take the White House with someone like Kasich.  Party insiders know that, but they no longer have the power they once did to win the race.  Now the rabble have the reins and so clowns and vampires is what they'll get.
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger