06/07 Phillies Offseason Thread

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Well, at least they're trying, it would appear.

[mpmcgraw]

Apparently there was going to be a deal of Rowand, Madson, and Happ (one of the phillies top pitching prospects) for Atkins and Cook.  Colorado got cold feet at the end.

Helms was the phillies backup plan.

Ugh. 

[mpmcgraw]

Beane would have gotten that shtein done.

1B:  Howard
2B:  Utley
3B:  Atkins
SS:  J-Roll

That's easily the best infield in the majors.  Boo.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I like the signing of Helms.  I think the team will be fine now.

[Rome]

Beane would have gotten that shtein done.

1B:  Howard
2B:  Utley
3B:  Atkins
SS:  J-Roll

That's easily the best infield in the majors.  Boo.

Right.  Much better than an infield that includes Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez & Jason Giambi.  And much, much better than an infield that includes Albert Pujols, Scott Rolen & David Eckstein.

[mpmcgraw]

Beane would have gotten that shtein done.

1B:  Howard
2B:  Utley
3B:  Atkins
SS:  J-Roll

That's easily the best infield in the majors.  Boo.

Right.  Much better than an infield that includes Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez & Jason Giambi.  And much, much better than an infield that includes Albert Pujols, Scott Rolen & David Eckstein.

You shouldnt be allowed to talk about baseball.

Howard just about=Pujols

Who exactly is St. Louis second baseman?  Chase Utley wins.

Rollins is better than Eckstein and its not even close.  Do you know how terrible a .694 OPS is?  Jimmy even steals more bases.

Atkins is better than Rolen.  It's close, and I love Scotty but Atkins had a much much better year and Rolen cant stay healthy.

Giambi isnt even playing 1B anymore.  Andy Phillips is.

Utley is better than Cano.  Not by a lot, but a decent amount.

Jeter is better than Rollins obviously.  Not as much as it used to be though.

ARod had a terrible year by his standards.  Atkins had a better year by a considerable amount.

Seriously just kill yourself.

[SunMo]

how bout you guys just get each other IM names and continue this elsewhere... i don't need your arguments cluttering up some good Wes Helms talk

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Wes Helms has just been awarded the 2007 NL MVP.

[mpmcgraw]

So he is a HOF'er by your standards?

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I was talking only about the NFL.

But yes.  I think it's obvious that Helms will be in the HoF.  Him and Don Carman.

[SunMo]

he's not by yours?

[mpmcgraw]

Good point. 

[mpmcgraw]

This is going to be hilarious if he thinks that Eckstein is better than Rollins.

[Rome]

Asstard,

Andy Phillips played 533 innings at 1B last season.  Giambi played 480.  And an infield with Giambi in it that includes two certain Hall of Famers trumps anything that the Phillies could trot out there.

As for the Cardinals, Pujols is the best player of his generation by far, Rolen is the best defensive 3B since Brooks Robinson & David Eckstein was the World Series MVP.

If you're going to talk shtein about the Phillies, that's fine.  I think Howard, Utley & Rollins are great too.  But to suggest they're easily the best infield in the Majors if they would have added Atkins at third is just plain retarded.

[mpmcgraw]

You are an idiot.

I really dont know how much more simply I can put it.  You probably dont even realize how good Atkins is and that Eckstein is one of the most overrated players in the game. 

I love how you say World Series MVP like it means anything.