06/07 Phillies Offseason Thread

Started by MDS, September 30, 2006, 07:23:38 PM

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SD_Eagle5

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Quote from: Billy Beane on January 12, 2007, 01:19:09 PM

Quote from: SD_Eagle on January 12, 2007, 01:06:15 PM
He has a higher OBP
No, he does not. 
Quote from: SD_Eagle on January 12, 2007, 01:06:15 PM
and fits better as a leadoff man than Rollins. Rollins, with his speed and power would be better suited to hit with men on base. Why waste a guy who can hit with power at the leadoff spot? When Rollins went down last season Victorino stepped into the leadoff spot and did a hell of a job.
How does he fit better?  He doesnt.  Rollins is a better leadoff hitter than Victorino.  If you dont want to waste Rollins' ablitity with no men on base fine, but saying that Victorino is better suited for leadoff is just wrong, and I love the guy. 

Victorino's OBP last season - .346

Rollins OBP last season - .334

Last time I checked .346 is a better OBP than .334

If you can find it - because I can't - dig up Victorino's numbers from when he hit leadoff last season.

mpmcgraw

shtein you are right, sorry about that.  I must have been looking at Rowand's OBP by accident. 

Rollins and Victorino's OBP is batting average driven.  They both walk only about .060% of the time.  It is pretty much a coin toss to which one of them would have a higher OBP in a given year which is why I am ignoring it. 

Even if Victorino will always get on base at a .010% higher clip than Rollins all of those other reasons should still outweigh that.

Victorino had a .194 BA and .523 OPS batting hitting #1.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?statsId=7104&type=batting&year=2006


PoopyfaceMcGee

They could sign me to hit leadoff.  I have an amazing VORP.

rjs246

I just wanted to say that I hate all of you.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

PoopyfaceMcGee


rjs246

Oh I get it. I'm just saying that I hate you.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Don't hate.  Especially on this, the eve of Martin Luther King weekend.

mpmcgraw

Quote from: rjs246 on January 12, 2007, 05:51:34 PM
Oh I get it. I'm just saying that I hate you.
There is a guy on that forum mds was pimping in here that believes that Larry Johnson is the 7th best running back in the NFL using statistics and that his year last year was probably a fluke.

Want me to invite him over here?  He really is a lot like you except you two probably disagree about absolutely everything involving sports. 

rjs246

No. But if you want to light yourself on fire instead that would be fine.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

mpmcgraw

I would, but I just hate the smell of burnt hair.

rjs246

Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

mpmcgraw

That's just the alcohol talking. 

MDS

The two of you are so cute together. A High school slacker with a crush on Bill James and a 30 something alchohalic slacker who is extreamly negative and bitter. Awwwww.
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

rjs246

If you ever call me 30 something again I'll tear your arms off and beat you to death with them.

That includes after I've actually turned 30.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

MDS

That will never happen. 30 something, you are 30 something.

Okay, please. I dare you. Come at me. Come on, tough guy. Bring it.
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.