The Running Backs, Wide Receivers and other offensive questionmarks...

Started by rjs246, August 18, 2006, 12:01:53 AM

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Quote from: ice grillin you on August 21, 2006, 05:08:48 PM
the eagles have a huge edge at qb if the eagles qb had weapons...mcnabb isnt good enough to overcome bad wr's and no running game...clearly mcnabb is better than brunnel were all things equal...but this year with the respective offenses around them you can make a case that brunnell will have a better year...tho it has to be admitted that its possible brunnel could have NOTHING left...and if thats the case it changes everything


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PoopyfaceMcGee

Brunell will not have a better year than McNabb unless there is another freak injury.

Yes, I'm even considering the surrounding cast.

ice grillin you

name me one QB that ever has been?

recently tom brady for one and he won the sb...but im not talking about going all the way im talking about in general mcnabb is not a qb whos passing abilities are going to make players better...he needs big time talent around him to be truly great....whereas a peyton manning a bledsoe (in his prime) steve young are all pure passing qb's who can make avg or good wr's better...we are entering broken record land tho so lets just agree to disagree
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rjs246

Shhh, don't say his name. They don't have a legitimate response for his ridiculous level of superiority over McNabb.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

mpmcgraw

Quote from: rjs246 on August 21, 2006, 07:06:19 PM
Shhh, don't say his name. They don't have a legitimate response for his ridiculous level of superiority over McNabb.
He has possibly the greatest coach of all time behind him, and you can not compare Branch, Givens, etc to what McNabb will have this year.


rjs246

Branch is a second round WR. Brown is a second round WR.
Givens was a low round WR. Baskett was an undrafted WR.

Pretty comparable if you ask me.

Either way Brady won three superbowls with questionable WR talent and he won two of them with utterly shteinastic running games.
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Let them eat bootstraps.

rjs246

BTW, I'm saying their comparable in terms of physical ability. The difference is that Brady makes his recievers better while McNabb doesn't increase or decrease the value of his receivers. They just are what they are.
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Let them eat bootstraps.

mpmcgraw

Quote from: rjs246 on August 21, 2006, 07:10:07 PM
Branch is a second round WR. Brown is a second round WR.
Givens was a low round WR. Baskett was an undrafted WR.

Pretty comparable if you ask me.

Either way Brady won three superbowls with questionable WR talent and he won two of them with utterly shteinastic running games.
Fine I'll give you that, but you dont think the difference in coaching skills is a legitimate response?  I am obviously not going to argue that McNabb is better or as good as Brady, but that needs to be taken into account.

rjs246

Of course coaching had an impact. Bill B is so far ahead of Andy Reid in terms of in-game coaching that they can't even be compared.

What I think is that Tom Brady, on the Eagles, coached by Andy Reid in 2002, 2003 and 2004, gets the team over the hump and wins a Lombardi. While he elevates his game when it matters most, McNabb just plays the way he plays. And they are on two completely different levels as players because of it.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

ice grillin you

brady wins more because belichek is light years ahead of reid as a coach but as far as how good of a player each is you could argue that mcnabb has/had the advantage in terms of coaching as he has played for an offensive mind where as brady has played for a defensive guru
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 21, 2006, 07:20:15 PM
brady wins more because belichek is light years ahead of reid as a coach but as far as how good of a player each is you could argue that mcnabb has/had the advantage in terms of coaching as he has played for an offensive mind where as brady has played for a defensive guru

You manage to contradict yourself intra-post more often than anyone else on this board outside of Bunkley78.

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ice grillin you

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

The BIGSTUD

I've very rarely been wrong.

You, on the other hand, are not only wrong, but are pretty ignorant as well.
Calling it right on the $ since day one.
Just pointing laughing, and living it up while watching the Miami Heat stink it up.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 21, 2006, 07:56:26 PM
I've very rarely been wrong.

You, on the other hand, are not only wrong, but are pretty ignorant as well.

Cripple fight?