Eagles turn down schoebel for lelie

Started by moats23, August 14, 2006, 04:57:59 PM

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PhillyPhanInDC

I'd do the trade in rapid order, but I would be lying if I said I wouldn't be bummed to see Moats go. I think the kid has some serious potential, but the value would overrule it. Just from the little bit I have seen of Moats on the field, I could see the kid developing into a serious player.
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done.""  R.I.P George.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: EagleFeva on August 22, 2006, 09:01:53 AM
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That's silly.  Your finger ain't white, dook.

Feva

"Now I'm completing up the other half of that triangle" - Emmitt Smith on joining Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin in the Hall of Fame

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PoopyfaceMcGee


Feva

Maybe Davis was brought in for a look because the Eagles were pondering sending Moats on his way for Lelie?

Brown
Lelie
Baskett
Gaffney
McCants
Avant

Westbrook
Davis
Buck
Mahe
"Now I'm completing up the other half of that triangle" - Emmitt Smith on joining Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin in the Hall of Fame

"If you have sex with a prostitute against her will, is that considered rape or shoplifting?" -- 2 Live Stews

ice grillin you

Westbrook - two series away from getting hurt
Davis - micro fracture surgery recepient (this is the same surgery chris webber had five years ago that has caused him to not be able to move since)
Buck - ummmm
Mahe


moats is needed as a buffer btwn westbrook and mahe....thats a fact
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

MadMarchHare

It's not that I have more faith in Mahe, it's that I have little faith in Moats.
Jesus, even IGY is saying Moats could step in for Westbrook without losing a beat.  That's bull.  The only difference between Moats and Mahe is that Moats will occassionally break one for a big gain/TD.  Neither will average over 4 ypc.
Anyone but Reid.

ice grillin you

even IGY is saying Moats could step in for Westbrook without losing a beat.


link?
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Feva

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Quote from: ice grillin you on August 22, 2006, 09:32:15 AM
Westbrook - two series away from getting hurt
Davis - micro fracture surgery recepient (this is the same surgery chris webber had five years ago that has caused him to not be able to move since)
Buck - ummmm
Mahe


moats is needed as a buffer btwn westbrook and mahe....thats a fact

I agree with you.  I'm not saying it makes sense... just that may have been their thought process.

Quote from: MadMarchHare on August 22, 2006, 09:32:56 AM
It's not that I have more faith in Mahe, it's that I have little faith in Moats.
Jesus, even IGY is saying Moats could step in for Westbrook without losing a beat. That's bull. The only difference between Moats and Mahe is that Moats will occassionally break one for a big gain/TD. Neither will average over 4 ypc.

I don't think anyone is seriously saying that there's not a dropoff from Westbrook to Moats.  The deal is that it's a MUCH larger dropoff from Westbrook to Mahe... and given Westbrook's injury history... you gotta think about that.


Westbrook >>>>>> Moats

Westbrook >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mahe
"Now I'm completing up the other half of that triangle" - Emmitt Smith on joining Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin in the Hall of Fame

"If you have sex with a prostitute against her will, is that considered rape or shoplifting?" -- 2 Live Stews

ice grillin you

what feva said

but he left out....

igy>>>>>>mahe
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PoopyfaceMcGee

They should totally get Ron Dayne as part of the deal.


I meant to say that as a joke, and now I'm not so sure I'm kidding.

phattymatty

if the choice is between dayne and tatum bell, i would much rather bell.   even though the birds need a 'big back', dayne is just fat and no better through the middle than the guys we have.  at least bell has some breakaway speed.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: phattymatty on August 22, 2006, 09:51:35 AM
if the choice is between dayne and tatum bell, i would much rather bell.   even though the birds need a 'big back', dayne is just fat and no better through the middle than the guys we have.  at least bell has some breakaway speed.

I absolutely agree.

Sgt PSN

Quote from: MadMarchHare on August 22, 2006, 08:51:39 AM
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 22, 2006, 08:47:30 AM
Quote from: MadMarchHare on August 22, 2006, 08:44:53 AM
Moats for Lelie, I'd do that in a heartbeat.  Moats has shown nothing.  Nothing.  Everyone wants to talk about his two big runs, great.  But outside of those, he didn't do shtein.  Yeah, it was with 3rd string OL at that point, but he hasn't proven anything.

Long runs or not... you really can't just scoff at and throw away 5.1 ypc.

Sure you can. Take away those two runs, and his average was 3.4 ypc. Reno could do that, so could Perry (if he could hold onto the ball). And we need someone to stretch the field. Straight up makes perfect sense.

I've never been a big fan of the whole "take away those carries" argument.  It's called an average because that's exactly what it is.  An average.  If you take away all of McNabb's incompletions/interceptions he'd have a perfect QB rating. 

MadMarchHare

Having taken several statistics courses, I could bore you to near death arguing this point.
The fact is, those were two runs out of 55.  If you run a CI analysis, you'd find they lie outside the 95% range, meaning they are aberrations which are just as likely to be due to chance as to a trend.
In analyzing data of this sort, the median (the number at the exact center of all your data points) is a better guage of a trend.  I'm not going through all his games to figure out what that is, but I'm betting it's in the 2 to 3 yard range.
Anyone but Reid.