McNabb's Remark

[Geowhizzer]

So when McNabb lost to the eventual superbowl champs, he gets no credit.

sure he gets credit...even tho he singlehandedly lost the game for them....hes just not as good as manning

Horseshtein, IGY.  McNabb definitely deserves some blame (as well as some credit for keeping them in the game), but to say he singlehandedly lost the game for them is reaching to prove your argument.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I'll always counter this argument with the lack of running plays Reid failed to call. Any player in this league that throws 51 passes against an excellent Pats D is going to make some mistakes, I put the onus on Reid for not even trying to establish a running game.

The Eagles couldn't open a semblance of a hole in that game.  The Pats had the OL completely baffled.

[ice grillin you]

but to say he singlehandedly lost the game for them is reaching to prove your argument

my only argument is that mcnabb is a good not great qb...and yes the superbowl supports such a position

[SD_Eagle5]

They went with a 3 man line for much of the game and were dropping a lot of their defense into coverage. A running game might have worked if Andy would have adjusted to the Pats defense better.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Well, Andy's in-game tactics are often questionable.

[Geowhizzer]

but to say he singlehandedly lost the game for them is reaching to prove your argument

my only argument is that mcnabb is a good not great qb...and yes the superbowl supports such a position

Not when you say he singlehandedly lost the game.

Was he great?  No.

Was he good?  Not enough that night.  He was a might better in that game than Ben Roethlisberger was in this year's Big Game.  Ben will get suckled, though, because his team pulled him through.  McNabb gets blasted because he wasn't able to overcome the mistakes of the defense, the lines, the coaches, the receivers and, yes, himself.

[SD_Eagle5]

but to say he singlehandedly lost the game for them is reaching to prove your argument

my only argument is that mcnabb is a good not great qb...and yes the superbowl supports such a position

The entire offense went on his shoulders during the Superbowl. He had no running game...none. I can't remember a QB asked to do as much as he was in any Superbowl. If you can find one please enlighten me with their name. Because all the 'greats' you're about to mention like Elway, Montana, and Brady had a well balanced running game.

[Geowhizzer]

but to say he singlehandedly lost the game for them is reaching to prove your argument

my only argument is that mcnabb is a good not great qb...and yes the superbowl supports such a position

The entire offense went on his shoulders during the Superbowl. He had no running game...none. I can't remember a QB asked to do as much as he was in any Superbowl. If you can find one please enlighten me with their name. Because all the 'greats' you're about to mention like Elway, Montana, and Brady had a well balanced running game.

Elway sucked until the last two years of his career.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

This is kind of a silly argument, and I enjoy having a moderate opinion on it.

I just thought I'd share.

[Rome]

McNabb single-handedly kept the Eagles in that game.  If not for him they would have gotten their asses blown out that night because their running game was non-existent (helps to actually have a legitimate running back on the squad).

I know it's fashionable in certain circles to bash McNabb but all you need to do to see what the Eagles would be like without him is to watch "highlights" of the last 8 games of the 2005 season.  Mind-numbingly awful.

[Geowhizzer]

This is kind of a silly argument, and I enjoy having a moderate opinion on it.

I just thought I'd share.

I I believe that mine is fairly balanced.  McNabb could have done more to minimize his mistakes in the Super Bowl, and I haven't entered it at all regarding him compared to Brady/Manning/Montana/Jesus.

But when IGY said he lost it by himself, that's just plain nuts.  Even by IGY's standards. 

[DonovanTheMessiah]

Donovan McNabb is the #1 reason we didn't win that game but he's not the #1 reason we lost it. If he doesn't throw those bonehead picks in NE territory, we're SB champs, but our O and D lines lost us that game.

[Displaced]

Yeah well if the Eagles run the ball nine times and pick up zero yrds the three times they were in the redzone they win by six because the at least salvage three points each trip.

[Don Ho]

What lost us that game?  Two key things that have nothing to do with players.

1.)  Accepting the opening kickoff.  When the birds won the toss and elected to receive I remember thinking "Uh-oh, not a good move."  The Super Bowl halftime is 30 minutes long.  Giving Charlie Weiss 30 minutes to draw up a game plan after seeing what the birds were bringing was the kiss of death.  It was quite obvious the way the Pats manhandled the birds in Q3.

2.) Wasting a time out earlier in the second half.  To this day we have never heard why the birds had only two timeouts.  What happened to that third one?  All I remember is they had to burn a timeout in the third quarter I believe for some reason and FOX showed Burgess all pissed off because they wasted a timeout as they cut to a commercial.  I don't think it was because of him.  We don't need to even get into what an extra timeout would have meant on that final drive.

[ice grillin you]

If he doesn't throw those bonehead picks in NE territory, we're SB champs

WINNER!