McNabb's Remark

[The BIGSTUD]

It's funny how people who claim to be realists always speak the opposite of reality. It's usually baseless bashing.

[reese125]

Bunkley my man...far from a McNabb hater. Just a realist whos not going to compare greatness to any QB unless he wins something of significance. I want it more than the next guy, and Im going to take my blindfold off during the process.

I love how clowns hide behind the "realist" tag when bashing the team. Admit that youre a hater and get out from behind the "realist" cloak. I also like how people start off a good bash session by stating how long they have owned season tickets, been a fan or how they want to win as much as anyone.

We all have our opinions. Yours are on the hater side of things. Admit it. Embrace the darkside and live with it. And then man up when McNabb proves you wrong.

#1--Phreak and Bunkley--if you sit here and think McNabb hasnt faltered in any game in the last 5 years your so in the clouds its ridiculous. Check back and look at the statements that were made before you start jumping at nonsense just to make a point.

#2--Just because I dont have my mouth buried in McNabbs nuts because he is our quarterback doesnt make me a hater. I know the guy is good, he has a great playoff record and has taken this team on his back the majority of the years. Has he won big games--no question, has he choked in some games--without doubt. If you cant admit that, than your truly not a realist--your a fool.

#3--before you go and write a paragraph about bashing a team--think back to all of your 24 pages of negative Phillies comments among the pages of Eagles comments Phreak. I can be negative just like you, or should I say truthful.

[Rome]

I've always thought that the whole "keepin' it real" thing was a cop-out.  It's like an insurance policy against being disappointed when your team loses or underperforms.

It's especially annoying dealing with people who are die-hards for the team when they're winning and then disappear when they start losing.

Objective criticism is fine but mindless, baseless negativism isn't in my book.

I honestly think there's a certain percentage of fans who get off on the whole mystique of Philly teams being cursed and Philly fans being obnoxious losers.  Personally, I'd prefer it if we followed teams that won everything in sight but that just hasn't been the case for the better part of our lives. 

[reese125]

hey, if your someone that gets disappointed by the truth just because your a diehard, than your not seeing reality for what it is. I dont go back and forth from winners and or losers--thats corny and phony. There is such a thing as looking at life/sports from face value--your either going to think objectively or subjectively. Whichever direction you choose thats fine. I know which direction Im facing

[Rome]

Well, I prefer to look at things optimistically, reese.   

Being cynical and negative about everything is a zesty way of looking at things, especially things in which you have absolutely no control over.

I'm a critical thinker in every other aspect of my life other than sports.  I mean, how else can you explain a 41 year-old man being fanatically devoted to a team who has never won a championship in his lifetime?  It's a sickness we all share as Eagles fans for sure, but if we're going to be sick, we might as well be optimistic about the future of the team.

[hunt]

who are these "mcnabb bashers"?  callers on WIP?
uhhh...who cares?


i don't think anyone on here constantly bashes mcnabb....some of us point out that he's come up small in some big games but i don't think anybody on here is saying he's a bad qb.
and stop it with the "hater" label already.  it's possible to be critical without having blind hatred for a player.

[reese125]

no question Rome. Be optimistic all you want--I figured thats why your in this forum. I find myself to be a very positive person as well, but I can still speak the truth without being labeled as cynic or pessimist. Everyone in here has been negative/ positive with all the Philly sports teams--its indeniable. More so on the negative because this city is in a drought. But whatever, from my standpoint--as long as you know what the hell your talking about--you can speak on both sides of the coin

[Rome]

John Smallwood: McNabb's offense is his continued insensitivity


I'M BEGINNING TO wonder if Donovan McNabb actually doesn't care.

I didn't think so, but maybe McNabb cares as little about the sensitivities of other people that his misplaced comment during Super Bowl week and his refusal to back off of it implies.

Maybe he actually believes it was appropriate to characterize his verbal catfight with departed receiver Terrell Owens as "black-on-black crime."

That his celebrity status puts him so far above common folk that he isn't required to consider how people who have suffered the tragedies of true black-on-black crime could be offended by his defiant defending of his ridiculous stance.

I thought he was better than that. Maybe I was wrong.

"Anything you'd like to clean up? Particularly the black-on-black crime comment that a lot people felt was insensitive of you and took offense to?" McNabb was asked during his news conference Saturday during Eagles minicamp.

"No," the quarterback responded. "What I said is what I said. You know, it's over now. We move on."

The follow-up question started, "You don't think that people have any right to feel that comparing something like [black-on-black crime] to you and T.O. having an argument was... "

McNabb cut the question off by responding, "I personally don't even care. If they don't understand what I said, then that's tough. I mean, move on."

That was cold.

Perhaps that's why once he saw the transcripts of his interview, McNabb later clarified his answer through a team spokesman. "It wasn't my intent to offend anyone," he said after Saturday's second practice session.

"If they don't understand what I said, I can't do anything about that now. It's time to move on."

That, however, doesn't explain why in the official transcript of McNabb's news conference, the one that is placed on the team's Web site and e-mailed to news organizations, the Eagles media relations staff deleted McNabb's "I personally don't even care," comment and replaced it with the amended response. The team did note on the transcript that it was providing the clarified response.

But why cover up what he said?

Of course, even an "on second thought" quote offering some contrition was more than what McNabb did in March when he told Comcast SportsNet that if people didn't understand what he was talking about during Super Bowl week, "It wasn't meant for you."

In the grand scheme, McNabb is just an athlete whose views on social issues probably don't mean that much.

And I know a lot of Eagles fans couldn't care less about McNabb's social awareness as long as he recovers from last season's physical and mental injuries and leads the Birds back into the hunt for the Super Bowl.

Still, it was McNabb himself who injected this issue into his dispute with Owens.

Until Saturday, I believed that McNabb had just used a poor choice of words when he told ESPN, "It was a slap in the face because, as deep as people want to go into it, it was black-on-black crime," referring to Owens saying the Eagles would have had a better record if Brett Favre were the Birds' quarterback instead of McNabb.

I believed McNabb wanted to make reference to the old saying, "crabs in a pot" or a barrel, which basically refers to the phenomena of one black person trying to pull another black down.

Few people could have blamed him for feeling like that after what Owens did to him last season.

Still, as McNabb stated, what he said was what he said.

So now, telling people to "move on" because he doesn't want to deal with the collateral controversy and criticism he created doesn't cut it.

All of which leads me to wonder if McNabb truly doesn't care.

He was aware of the stir his black-on-black crime analogy would create.

In November, McNabb's father, Sam, came under criticism when he made virtually the same comment to the Daily News in reference to Owens continually verbally slamming his son.

"That's something that I think you would have to ask my dad about, just what the message he's sending with that," McNabb said back then. "But it's unfortunate anytime, if it's black or white, that we would have this type of tragedy."

So how could McNabb have not anticipated that he would be asked, "Just what was the message he was sending with that?"

And when his answer is, "I personally don't even care," why should anyone believe otherwise?

I didn't want to think that about McNabb, but now, I'm beginning to wonder.

I love it. 

They ask questions, McNabb answers them truthfully at the time, then three months later, they drag it back up, he gives a "no comment - let's move on" response and that's not good enough for some people.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Could this be any more of a non-issue?  I'm just glad he got rid of the ridiculous hair and the love handles.

[reese125]

for someone to even bring that back up- with the start of a new season- is just so bored and uncreative in finding a story.
Thats all this team needs is negative press--idiots

[hunt]

Could this be any more of a non-issue?  I'm just glad he got rid of the ridiculous hair and the love handles.

i agree....that's the bigger story.

braids are wack.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

He looks less like Iverson, and that's always a good thing.

[ice grillin you]

i cant believe people have actually compared mcnabb to jim kelly anc dan marino much less peyton manning...and fwiw mcnabb is not a pro bowl caliber qb...hes had one true probowl year and that was 2004...the other years he made it because of injuries and because of the horrible qb situation in the nfc...the guy is a good solid qb no more no less...please dont put him in a league with dan marino and jim kelly


the eagles  have won games because of mcnabb but they were never a good team bevause of mcnabb...when he ran he was a very good weapon but hes never been great qb and never will be...that doesnt mean he cant lead the team to a sb...but there are certainly major concerns as to if he will ever do it

all im saying is that he doesnt have great numbers in his career and has laid some huge playoff eggs...he isnt going to prove anything from here on out unless he wins superbowl...whereas someone like peyton manning or marino will have monsterous numbers and will be considered with the greats of all time even if they dont win a sb...and kelly has four sb appearances plus huge numbers...mcnabb will have nothing but some nice numbers...he has to win a superbowl or else he ends up in an argument as to who is the best eagle qb ever...of course thats nothing to be ashamed of

[reese125]

get ready IGY...here it comes.........

[ice grillin you]

i cant help it if the truth hurts