Chris Gocong, Philadelphia Eagle

[Mad-Lad]

I'm skeptical on this pick too, but have a "wait and see" attitude about it.  Seems a bit high to draft someone who they think can be a SAM linebacker.  Here's to hoping they look like geniuses for taking the Conger.

[ice grillin you]

but his athleticism is pretty much the only thing that the pundits unanimously agree he has going for him.

and i disagree with them...he might have shown some athleticism at cal poly but that doesnt mean hes an athlete in the nfl...because the eagles took him youre blindly ignoring the criticism of him...

this from one profile...


Despite being a good athlete with very quick feet, he is not an explosive off-the-ball pass rusher, and he will not be able to beat the offensive tackle around the corner consistently in the NFL. He lacks a real variety of pass rush moves.


thats what im talking about...oooh he has quick feet which means hes an nfl athlete...im not buying it...and again you dont take tweeners who 'might' be a situational player in the third round...unless they have just off the charts raw ability...which this guy clearly doesnt

[PhillyPhanInDC]

Seriously.  Don't say the kid can't play just because he's smart and Asian.

whats asian have to do with it...im going by reids history and this is a classic pick by him that doesnt work...its matt mccoy....matt ware....billy mcmullen...sean considine...unathletic hard working solid people picks who cant play and were taken to high

he was clearly a second day pick...there were so many better people on the board that could have beentaken there its not funny

so i would say dont call it a good pick just because hes smart and asian

Sometimes you makes some pretty foolish, and mostly baseless statements. You haven't seen either of these guys in game situations.

As for Cocong, at the position, who would you say was a better pick that was left? You can pick, DE or OLB.

When a player they take late doesn't meet your "standards", you bash him/them, then when he does well, like Cole last year, you are pretty quiet.

Your nugget of info on the Cole pick last year (from the same kind of thread about Cole):

altho he will be a real good one...nobody is going to spend a 2 or a 3 on a guy who is a career special teamer

[SD_Eagle5]

I understand the skepticism with this pick considering our horrid history with drafting LBs and the fact that this guys from a D-2 school. One thing that encouraged me was watching his highlight reel, he has size and a motor, one of the plays he outruns his entire team and RB with the ball to catch the guy from behind, if he doesn't make the tackle the guys in the endzone for a TD.

[ice grillin you]

hey if you think this is a good pick im happy for you...because its almost a perfect draft if you like it...then again i didnt expect any criticism of the draft from people on the board

i would have taken any of the wr's at that point way over this cat

[xtacy1238]

Gocong is CLEARLY an athlete! And CLEARLY a playmaker! His raw ability is way off the charts! The only question with this kid is will it all equate to this level of competion? And no film or mesurements will tell that. Only opertunity!

And at worst you have a kid that flat out can get after the passer. Weater thats from the SAM or DE or the Joker.

[hunt]

I understand the skepticism with this pick considering our horrid history with drafting LBs and the fact that this guys from a D-2 school. 

[SD_Eagle5]

hey if you think this is a good pick im happy for you...because its almost a perfect draft if you like it...then again i didnt expect any criticism of the draft from people on the board

i would have taken any of the wr's at that point way over this cat

I would have too, I was aboard the Stovall bandwagon. Was I happy with this pick? Nope. It took watching his highlight reel to not bash the pick.

[ice grillin you]

Gocong is CLEARLY an athlete! And CLEARLY a playmaker! His raw ability is way off the charts! The only question with this kid is will it all equate to this level of competion? And no film or mesurements will tell that. Only opertunity!

And at worst you have a kid that flat out can get after the passer. Weater thats from the SAM or DE or the Joker.


best pick evah?

[PhillyPhanInDC]

Gocong is CLEARLY an athlete! And CLEARLY a playmaker! His raw ability is way off the charts! The only question with this kid is will it all equate to this level of competion? And no film or mesurements will tell that. Only opertunity!

And at worst you have a kid that flat out can get after the passer. Weater thats from the SAM or DE or the Joker.

My eyes!

[MadMarchHare]

but his athleticism is pretty much the only thing that the pundits unanimously agree he has going for him.

and i disagree with them...he might have shown some athleticism at cal poly but that doesnt mean hes an athlete in the nfl...because the eagles took him youre blindly ignoring the criticism of him...

this from one profile...


Despite being a good athlete with very quick feet, he is not an explosive off-the-ball pass rusher, and he will not be able to beat the offensive tackle around the corner consistently in the NFL. He lacks a real variety of pass rush moves.


thats what im talking about...oooh he has quick feet which means hes an nfl athlete...im not buying it...and again you dont take tweeners who 'might' be a situational player in the third round...unless they have just off the charts raw ability...which this guy clearly doesnt

Aren't you the guy who was arguing "too high" or "too low" was meaningless Kiper speak?  That if you see a guy who can help you it doesn't matter where they're drafted.  Sniff, sniff, what's that stench - oh, yeah, hypocrisy.

I know nothing of this guy (hell, I don't know much about Bunkley, except he played at FSU).  But you're saying he's a bust is as ridiculous as anyone saying he's the next Lawrence Taylor.  Athleticism aside, he's potential only until he shows it on game day.

[PhillyGirl]

Gocong is from a Division 1-AA school, NOT a D2 school.

Hence the 

[ice grillin you]

Aren't you the guy who was arguing "too high" or "too low" was meaningless Kiper speak?  That if you see a guy who can help you it doesn't matter where they're drafted.  Sniff, sniff, what's that stench - oh, yeah, hypocrisy.

no i said the term reach should be banned...there is no such thing...there are good picks and bad picks...this was a bad pick

[SD_Eagle5]

Gocong is from a Division 1-AA school, NOT a D2 school.

Hence the 

Its all gravy since it's not a D-1 school

[MadMarchHare]

Aren't you the guy who was arguing "too high" or "too low" was meaningless Kiper speak?  That if you see a guy who can help you it doesn't matter where they're drafted.  Sniff, sniff, what's that stench - oh, yeah, hypocrisy.

no i said the term reach should be banned...there is no such thing...there are good picks and bad picks...this was a bad pick

Dude, it's much too early to tell.  Much.  Just like saying he'll supplant Jones.  We'll see in September.