Couple of Heckert tidbits from Reuben Frank

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I don't want Michael Robinson. I don't even think he'd make an effective gadget player. Too slow.
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Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 25, 2006, 11:09:30 PM
If I am a team like Philly with three 4th rounders I would definately take a flyer on a guy like Robinson. 

No way.  Those 4th rounders are much better served to take advantage of the good depth at LB, DT, DB or even RB that will be available at that time than to use it on a project player who no one actually knows where he'll end up playing.  Hell, if you ask him, he's playing QB.  He doesn't even seem interested in playing anywhere else... which is another reason not to take anything other than a late round chance on him.

Robinson's a helluva college football player, but I don't think he has a game that translates well to the NFL.  The classic "Jack of all trades, master of none".
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Quote from: Philly Forever on April 26, 2006, 01:11:46 AM
I don't want Michael Robinson. I don't even think he'd make an effective gadget player. Too slow.

Have you ever watched him play? He certainly does not play slow, he is very fast on the field.
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Quote from: EagleFeva on April 26, 2006, 06:07:15 AM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 25, 2006, 11:09:30 PM
If I am a team like Philly with three 4th rounders I would definately take a flyer on a guy like Robinson. 

No way.  Those 4th rounders are much better served to take advantage of the good depth at LB, DT, DB or even RB that will be available at that time than to use it on a project player who no one actually knows where he'll end up playing.  Hell, if you ask him, he's playing QB.  He doesn't even seem interested in playing anywhere else... which is another reason not to take anything other than a late round chance on him.

Robinson's a helluva college football player, but I don't think he has a game that translates well to the NFL.  The classic "Jack of all trades, master of none".

He has never said that he is not interested in playing other positions, I recently heard an interview with him on the NFL network and he said he never said that he was only interested in playing QB.  I think he could make a good RB in the NFL, that of course is just my opinion.
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The only way I'd want Robinson is if he's a 7th round pick or an undrafted FA. He's too slow to play in the NFL.

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Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 26, 2006, 10:08:11 AM
Quote from: Philly Forever on April 26, 2006, 01:11:46 AM
I don't want Michael Robinson. I don't even think he'd make an effective gadget player. Too slow.

Have you ever watched him play? He certainly does not play slow, he is very fast on the field.

he's fast...for a quarterback...in the big ten
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I have watched just about every game this guy has played in he is not slow far from it.  Is he a burner no, but he has "football speed".  As far as the Big Ten being slow that was the case a few years ago not anymore.
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Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 26, 2006, 10:29:21 AM
I have watched just about every game this guy has played in he is not slow far from it.  Is he a burner no, but he has "football speed".  As far as the Big Ten being slow that was the case a few years ago not anymore.

'Football speed' works just fine in College, not in the NFL. A 4.9 40 time for a RB or WR is way too slow.

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Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 26, 2006, 10:32:12 AM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 26, 2006, 10:29:21 AM
I have watched just about every game this guy has played in he is not slow far from it.  Is he a burner no, but he has "football speed".  As far as the Big Ten being slow that was the case a few years ago not anymore.

'Football speed' works just fine in College, not in the NFL. A 4.9 40 time for a RB or WR is way too slow.

He didn't run a 4.9 according to him that was bullshtein and he runs between 4.5-4.6 either way the same exact thing was said about Randle El he ran a 4.6 something and speed has never been an issue with him.  I would actually make the argument he is a better prospect than Randle El.
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He actually ran sub-4.6.  He's faster than Maurice Stovall and Jason Avant.

Plus, Robinson runs with great agility and power.

If he doesn't make it in the NFL, it won't be because of lack of speed.  It will be because of lack of ability to produce at any one position (the jack of all trades, master of none theory).  Or, his fumbling problem... that could hurt too.

I don't think he should go on day 1.  Certainly not.  But he could go anywhere on day 2, probably the 5th or 6th.

SD_Eagle5

Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 26, 2006, 10:39:49 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 26, 2006, 10:32:12 AM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 26, 2006, 10:29:21 AM
I have watched just about every game this guy has played in he is not slow far from it.  Is he a burner no, but he has "football speed".  As far as the Big Ten being slow that was the case a few years ago not anymore.

'Football speed' works just fine in College, not in the NFL. A 4.9 40 time for a RB or WR is way too slow.

He didn't run a 4.9 according to him that was bullshtein and he runs between 4.5-4.6 either way the same exact thing was said about Randle El he ran a 4.6 something and speed has never been an issue with him.  I would actually make the argument he is a better prospect than Randle El.

Speed or not he's not as talented as Randle El as a QB or a WR.

PoopyfaceMcGee

...and Randle-El was picked where in the draft?

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