the random musings not worthy of new thread thread

[MMH]

farg flu shots.

And is there something wrong with vaccinations?

There's zero research that suggests there's a link between vaccinations and autism. I was a skeptic when my daughter was born and was anti-vaccination. You read enough crap on the internet and it terrifies you. I spoke to a few Doctors I know and trust who know about the shots and they said they're safe. My daughter has all her shots and she's the brightest child I have ever come across.

The anti-vaccines crowd (they'll be along shortly) will tell you the illness's they vaccinate for are all long gone so why vaccinate for them. What they fail to recognize is that they're gone because of vaccines.

The guy who reported that vaccines caused autism just this month admitted to falsifying all the data in that report.  farging douche.  Ridiculous the amount of harm this has caused.  And you'll never convince some that, even now, this isn't true.

[phillymic2000]

All our kids got their shots and they are fine. The Flu vaccination IMO is a fargin shot in the dark. Maybe I'm wrong, but they basically guess what strands they put in the shot right? Anywho, my family has never taken the flu shot, we do get sick here and there, but that's life. People who get the shot seem to get sick also looking at my school district's data.

[MMH]

All our kids got their shots and they are fine. The Flu vaccination IMO is a fargin shot in the dark. Maybe I'm wrong, but they basically guess what strands they put in the shot right? Anywho, my family has never taken the flu shot, we do get sick here and there, but that's life. People who get the shot seem to get sick also looking at my school district's data.

No you're absolutely right.  They try to guess which strains will be prevalent that year, and formulate accordingly.  It's not a sure thing.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I'm with SD on this one. Those who choose not to vaccinate may have bits and pieces of credible evidence, but every medical professional I have ever come across (including friends and family) believe the positives outweigh the negatives. FFette works in doctors' offices all day and got herself a nice case of whooping cough a couple of years back. Any ideas as to why whooping cough is making a comeback?

That said I don't personally begrudge anybody their freedom of choice, especially since my kids will be vaccinated. The socially irresponsible part comes from when adults who aren't up-to-date on their boosters, especially the elderly, contract old school ailments. But for the most part, to each his own. God bless America. Namaste.

P.S. I seem to have really headed off my symptoms nicely with another controversial medicine - Tamiflu. Meanwhile, FFette is taking Oscillo and it is doing absolutely nothing. It should be noted that Oscillo is "homeopathic" which means that the medical community considers it a placebo. $9.99 for 6 doses! MONEY WELL SPENT!

[shorebird]

All I take is Airborne and vitamins, mainly C.

[Diomedes]

The flu shot is good for some, to be sure.

My wife is a nurse, so she's directly exposed to all kinds of shtein in the hospital.  Not just from patients, but from working in an enclosed space with air pumped through buildings that literally thousands of people are breathing.  So she has to get the flu shot.

I work mostly outside, with at most five or six other guys.  If I am inside, it's in a house not large population climate controlled building, with no more than a few other people around.  I figure my exposure profile is so much lower, it would be wasteful and unecessary for me to get the shot.  If I get sick, I get sick.  I'm in the prime of my life, I can fight it off.   Now, if I were 65, I'd take the shot. 

Regarding the child, I defer to my wife's judgement what shots he get and what he doesn't.  I don't think he had one yet, because he's not in child care or exposed to many people, but I may be mistaken.  For all I know she got him the shot and didn't bother telling me because she knows I leave that crap to her.

[shorebird]

I wish I had a nurse for a wife, nurse Jackie. I wouldn't care if she was screwing the pharmacist for pain killers, long as she was getting enough for both of us.

[ice grillin you]

the only thing worse than the flu shot is the sheeple who line up to get them

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I got it for free this year at a festival. No wait either.

When there are lines, it means supply is slim and should be reserved for older and younger people. I've skipped getting the shot in those seasons.

[PhillyGirl]

SD, you're misguided here.

I'm NOT that vaccinating is bad, or that I am anywhere CLOSE to anti-vaccine.

its that the recommended CDC schedule is bad. Its NEVER been proven to be okay to pump that much virus/preservative into an infant 8 lbs. Ever. Never, ever, ever has it been proven to be safe. Once you see your infant child have a severe reaction, you sing a whole different tune. And once you know, IRL, (not one, but quite a few) parents who had their child go from completely normal to completely NOT in 24 hours from receiving a vaccine. This isn't just 1-200 kids, this is 10s of 1000s who have had this happen. Can you sit here and say, hey, they all would have done that regardless...even if it weren't for the vaccine?

Wakefield was a douche, yes. HOWEVER, there have been 2 subsequent studies backing him up. Any studies to the contrary, have been backed by Big Pharma. Which is the other HUGE problem in this situation.

I mean, we were all okay when our parents threw us in the backseat without even a seat belt, should we start putting our infants back there the same? Or driving with them on our laps in the front? Just because YOUR kids were okay, doesn't mean ALL kids are okay. Have you ever taken a look at the VAERS website? Have you ever really looked at the ingredients in a vaccination? Have you ever realized that while ok, a little formaldehyde or aluminum in ONE vaccine isn't too bad.....but when you add SIX vaccines all at once, all with "a little formaldehyde and a little aluminum"...into the body of an 8 week old infant...there might be a problem with that?

and now, the flu shot is...well, http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2010/08/23/latest-flu-shot-linked-to-seizures/

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

You make it sound like the majority of children have complications and the minority don't, which is exactly the opposite of the truth. Almost every medication, surgery, and vaccine has a minority of people who are worse off after getting the treatment than they would have been had they refused treatment. If you choose to use that reasoning to avoid any of the above, go right ahead. But don't try to tell me that I would be wise to do so as well.

You have to play the percentages in life sometimes. You may not get your information from Oprah and Jenny McCarthy, but they probably get their information from the same places you do. It is just as or more extreme to suggest that the majority of medical professionals are wrong about this than it is to suggest that they're right without question. Everyone should make their own decisions without being judged or preached to constantly.

[PhillyGirl]

I don't really care what you do with your kids. You and those who vaccinate on schedule are the ones that are, for some reason, doing the "right" thing. Its those who do not follow the schedule exactly that are frowned upon and have to deal with backlash.

You aren't the one to hear shtein like, "Your kids will infect my kids" or "you're being irresponsible and could cause your kid to die."

The problem is, there is a way to fix this shtein. there is a way to make it so the schedule isn't the way it is and to make it so the preservatives aren't the same toxic ones that they use now. The CDC and Big Pharma need to switch their thinking from defensive to proactive.

I come from a family of doctors. This has nothing to do about "rebelling" against the medical profession.  

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Well, those other parents are stupid. If they are vaccinating their kids and believe in vaccinating, why would they be afraid of their kids being infected?

[Diomedes]

I do know that my wife is not giving our son the shots on their schedule.  He's getting them all, but she's delaying some of them until he's a little older than they call for.

[phattymatty]

i gave an injection of hot beef yesterday.  not sure if it was on schedule or not.