Main Menu

Mocks

Started by Tomahawk, March 15, 2006, 12:57:53 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Philly Forever on April 19, 2006, 04:38:49 PM
So maybe the Niners initiated this deal after all.

Right, because one draft site thinks so.  (Note that they don't even claim that it's anything but a guess.)

Also, as I said before, it doesn't matter who initiated the deal, because obviously both teams had to see value in making the deal for it to happen anyway.

The BIGSTUD

All this is meaningless.

Bottom line: Broncos aren't getting Walker, and the Eagles are.
Calling it right on the $ since day one.
Just pointing laughing, and living it up while watching the Miami Heat stink it up.

PhillyPhanInDC

Quote from: Sun_Mo on April 19, 2006, 12:27:45 PM
apparantly, there is a 7 round mock up on ESPN insider.  somebody fetch it for me....now.

Here you are sir.  Only the first round....if you want me to post the rest I can, but it is insanely long. Not updated for today's trade.
Quote
1. Houston Texans (2-14)
Top-five needs: OT, OG, DC, WR, RB
The pick: +Reggie Bush, RB, USC
The Texans are surprisingly fielding far more trade offers for their pick than the Saints are at No. 2. If the deal is sweet enough, there's still a chance that the Texans could trade down a few spots (Jets?) and still get an elite player at a position of greater need, such as NC State DE Mario Williams or Virginia OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson. When all the dust settles, however, the Texans are still expected to take Bush with the first overall selection. Running back is not one of the Texans' top positional needs, but Bush is far more than just a running back. He's the most explosive runner, receiver and return man that this year's class has to offer. No other rookie will make a bigger impact than Bush will for the Texans next season.

2. New Orleans Saints (3-13)
Top-five needs: OT, DT, OC, DC, OLB
The pick: +Mario Williams, DE, N.C. State
Priority No. 1 for the Saints is still to trade out of this pick. They would love to move down a bit, acquire an extra pick or two and still get one of the top three prospects on their wish list: Williams, Ferguson or Ohio State OLB A.J. Hawk. The team will send out smoke signals following USC QB Matt Leinart's private visit on Wednesday, but don't buy into the hype. If the Saints get stuck picking at No. 2, the decision will be between Williams and Ferguson. While Ferguson fills a great area of need, rumor has it the Saints have Williams rated ahead of him on their board.

3. Tennessee Titans (4-12) Top-five needs: OT, MLB, QB, RB, OC
The pick: Matt Leinart, QB, USC
The Titans have leaked information regarding an internal tug-of-war between the personnel department and coaching staff over the top-rated quarterback in this year's draft, but we are hearing otherwise. Vince Young would be a possibility if Leinart is off the board, but expect the Titans to go with the Southern Cal southpaw if he's available when they go on the clock. The Titans are not expected to come to a resolution with longtime franchise quarterback Steve McNair, so Leinart would have a chance to start immediately. Making this an even more natural fit is Leinart's relationship with offensive coordinator Norm Chow, who spent four years in a similar post at USC.

4. New York Jets (4-12)
Top-five needs: RB, OT, OLB, QB, OG
The pick: D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia
The Jets are rumored to be one of the teams pursuing a possible deal with the Texans for the No. 1 pick. If that's the case, they would obviously be going after Bush. The second plausible scenario is to trade up a couple spots to secure Leinart, but as of today there are no reports of the Jets contacting the Saints for such a deal. In my opinion, the Jets' best move is to stay put. They have seven picks in the first four rounds, which is more than any other team. Instead of packaging some of those picks to move up, the Jets would be wise to address as many needs as possible in what is an extremely deep talent base in the 2006 draft. In this scenario, Ferguson would be a great value with the fourth overall pick and he would help address a priority need.

5. Green Bay Packers (4-12)
Top-five needs: OG, OLB, OC, DE, WR
The pick: A.J. Hawk, OLB, Ohio State
The Packers have done a decent job of addressing their needs at wide receiver (Rod Gardner), defensive tackle (Ryan Pickett) and safety (Marquand Manuel) this offseason. Still missing, though, is an impact playmaker on defense. There are some reports regarding the Packers' growing interest in massive two-gap DT Haloti Ngata (Oregon). However, Hawk is a more complete player, and he could make a more immediate impact for a defense that is in desperate need of a playmaker and leader of his capacity.

6. San Francisco 49ers (4-12)
Top-five needs: OLB, FS, DC, DE, MLB
The pick: +Vernon Davis, TE, Maryland
The 49ers will entertain trade offers once they are on the clock. Unless they receive an undeniable offer, the wise move is to draft the most explosive pass-catching weapon in this year's class. At 6-foot-3 and 258 pounds, with 4.38-speed in the 40-yard dash, Davis has game-breaker written all over him. By using this pick on Davis, the 49ers could exponentially speed up QB Alex Smith's developmental process.

7. Oakland Raiders (4-12)
Top-five needs: OG, DT, OLB, SS, RB
The pick: +Vince Young, QB, Texas
The Raiders have bigger needs, but Young is too special of an athlete to pass on with this pick. Aaron Brooks can serve as a bridge-the-gap starter while Young takes a year or two developing. Andrew Walter, last year's third-round pick, can become a good insurance policy for the future and potentially could become good trade bait.

8. Buffalo Bills (5-11)
Top-five needs: OT, DT, DC, RB, WR
The pick: +Haloti Ngata, DT, Oregon
Offensive tackle is a primary need area for the Bills. USC OT Winston Justice is skyrocketing up draft boards following his outstanding pro-day workout, but it would be a slight reach to take Justice this high, especially considering some of his character issues. The Bills were able to upgrade their defensive line with the free-agency addition of DT Larry Tripplett, but they are still in search of a young impact player to groom alongside of him. While it seems that Florida State's Brodrick Bunkley is a better fit in the team's new defensive scheme, we're hearing that the Bills favor Ngata over Bunkley if they elect to draft this position. Defensive tackles tend to take longer to develop than most other positions, but the presence of Tripplett and Tim Anderson would allow Ngata to ease into a starting role.

9. Detroit Lions (5-11)
Top-five needs: DC, OLB, ILB, OT, RB
The pick: Michael Huff, DB, Texas
New head coach Rod Marinelli comes from a hard-nosed, defense-minded background, and he'll want to set the tone by selecting an impact playmaker on that side of the ball. Some think Huff can play cornerback in the NFL, while others think he'll be limited to safety. I think he can play some of both, especially with the Lions moving to more of a Cover 2 look under Marinelli. Regardless, Huff is the best defensive back in this year's class, and he would immediately give the Lions much-needed versatility in their secondary.


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done.""  R.I.P George.

PhillyPhanInDC

Cont.

Quote
10. Arizona Cardinals (5-11)
Top-five needs: DB, TE, QB, OT, OLB
The pick: +Ernie Sims, OLB, Florida State
The Cardinals are mightily impressed with Justice but they know he's a bit of a reach at No. 10. They would love for Huff to fall to them here, but that's not the case in this scenario. Furthermore, while Jimmy Williams is high on everyone's board in terms of overall talent, there are too many concerns regarding his personality for the Cardinals to risk this high a pick on him. With all that said, the Cards will have a tough decision to make between Vanderbilt QB Jay Cutler, who provides promise for the future, and Sims, who could make an immediate impact playing opposite another young athletic outside linebacker, Karlos Dansby. Head coach Dennis Green and his staff are poised to make a playoff run soon, and Sims will help the team achieve that goal a lot quicker than Cutler.

11. St. Louis Rams (6-10)
Top-five needs: DT, DC, WLB, OG, OT
The pick: Chad Greenway, OLB, Iowa
This seems a bit high for Greenway to come off the board, but he is a safe pick at a position of need. If Sims slips past the Cardinals at pick No. 10, the Rams would likely take him ahead of Greenway. Another option is to draft Vanderbilt QB Jay Cutler, but new head coach Scott Linehan is an offensive guru who should be able to develop the team's quarterback of the future from a later round.

12. Cleveland Browns (6-10)
Top-five needs: DE, OLB, WR, NT, DC
The pick: Kamerion Wimbley, DE/OLB, Florida State
The Browns have been one of the most active teams in free agency this year, but they still have a number of holes to fill. After spending two of their three Day 1 picks last year on the offensive side of the ball, general manager Phil Savage knows he needs to give more attention to coach Romeo Crennel's defense. The Browns signed a couple of good fits for the 3-4 scheme, but OLB Willie McGinest and NT Ted Washington are aging and won't be around for long. If Ngata is still on the board, he would be an even better value as Washington's future replacement. In this case, though, Wimbley is the right selection. A former defensive end at Florida State, Wimbley is an ideal fit as a rush-linebacker in the Browns' 3-4 alignment. He could immediately upgrade the team's pass rush as a situational player early in his career before eventually taking over for McGinest as the full-time starter.

13. Baltimore Ravens (6-10)
Top-five needs: DS, QB, ROT, DT, OG
The pick: Brodrick Bunkley, DT, Florida State
Justice would be a consideration in this scenario, but Bunkley is a better value and a better fit. Bunkley has some character and durability issues that could cause him to slip, but we feel that he is a better overall prospect than Ngata. Bunkley has exceptional overall physical tools, as we saw from his jaw-dropping combine performance, and his production as a senior last season (25 tackles for loss, nine sacks) speaks for itself.

14. Philadelphia Eagles (6-10)
Top-five needs: OLB, WR, OT, RB, FS
The pick: +Winston Justice, OT, USC
Drafting a bigger back to take some of the load off Brian Westbrook's shoulders is a possibility, but the Eagles likely will address that need later. The team also needs help at wide receiver and outside linebacker, but no value exists to match this pick. With that in mind, Justice is the best fit. The Eagles are ancient at offensive tackle with Tra Thomas and Jon Runyan, so this would be a wise decision. Justice comes with some baggage and he needs some polishing, but his combination of size and athleticism are undeniable.

15. Denver Broncos (10-6)
Pick acquired from Falcons
Top-five needs: WR, TE, RB, OG/OC, DT
The pick: +Chad Jackson, WR, Florida
The Broncos are hoping to continue to make moves on draft day. Their primary goal is to package picks and move up for TE Davis. If they can't get that deal done, they'll look to acquire more picks by trading down. But if they get stuck at No. 15, look for the Broncos to select the best wide receiver on their board. Jackson needs some polish, but his size, explosive speed and playmaking ability would be a welcomed addition to a wide receiver corps that currently is in flux. Rod Smith is running out of time, and Ashley Lelie has proven to be too unreliable as a full-time starter. Jackson could contribute as a No. 3 immediately while being groomed as the primary target for the future.

16. Miami Dolphins (9-7)
Top-five needs: DC, WR, DS, OG, LB
The pick: +Santonio Holmes, WR, Ohio State
The Dolphins have addressed almost all of their needs via free agency, which gives them the flexibility that coach Nick Saban is looking for on draft weekend. Wimbley would be an option if he were still available. The team would also consider defensive backs such as Jimmy Williams or Donte Whitner (Ohio State). However, Holmes is one of only two elite wide receiver prospects in this year's draft, and he would make a bigger impact than the aforementioned prospects as a sub-package contributor behind starting WRs Chris Chambers and Marty Booker in 2006.

17. Minnesota Vikings (9-7)
Top-five needs: MLB, OLB, DC, QB, WR
The pick: Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt
Linebacker and cornerback are two positions the Vikings are targeting with this pick, but new head coach Brad Childress could not pass on a quarterback of Cutler's ability if he slips this far. Cutler is a big, athletic quarterback with a rifle for an arm. He needs some technique work, but Childress would have the time he needs to develop Cutler as Brad Johnson's eventual successor.

18. Dallas Cowboys (9-7)
Top-five needs: FS, OT, OG, DC, NT
The pick: +Donte Whitner, DS, Ohio State
The Cowboys would love to trade down in order to get a better value for an offensive tackle such as Auburn's Marcus McNeill. Drafting Holmes is also a possibility if he's available here, but coach Bill Parcells doesn't like to draft wide receivers in the first round, and the team already has a load of money locked up in that position with the recent acquisition of Terrell Owens. So if the Cowboys are stuck with this pick, Whitner makes the most sense. The team needs an intelligent, speedy free safety to complement SS Roy Williams, and Whitner is the ideal match. He emerged as a true playmaker during his junior season at Ohio State, and his 40-yard dash time of 4.38 seconds helped catapult him into first-round consideration.

19. San Diego Chargers (9-7)
Top-five needs: OT, WR, DS, OG, DC
The pick: +Johnathan Joseph, DC, South Carolina
The Chargers would consider a wide receiver if Jackson or Holmes slips to them. However, after recently making the Sammy Davis (DC)-for-Rashaun Woods (WR) trade, the Chargers are in even greater need of an upgrade in the defensive secondary. Joseph would be a good fit with the 19th pick because he's an athletic playmaker who could contribute immediately as a nickel-slot cover corner.
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done.""  R.I.P George.

PhillyPhanInDC

Tail End:
Quote
20. Kansas City Chiefs (10-6)
Top-five needs: DC, WR, OG, DE, QB
Top pick: Tye Hill, DC, Clemson
The Chiefs are in desperate need of a starter opposite LDC Patrick Surtain, so look for them to use this pick on the best cover corner available. Hill is one of the fastest corners in his class and he can change directions quickly. While he's undersized, he has excellent leaping ability and is a fundamentally sound tackler.

21. New England Patriots (10-6)
Top-five needs: ILB/OLB, WR, DC, RB, DT
The pick: +Antonio Cromartie, DC, Florida State
The Patriots have several needs on defense, and they could use this pick on a wide receiver if Jackson or Holmes slides. While linebacker is a bigger need, ultimately, expect the Pats to go with a corner here. Cromartie is a bit raw and rusty after starting just one game at Florida State and missing the entire 2005 season with a knee injury. However, he is healthy now, and he possesses an outstanding combination of size, speed and athleticism. New England's coaching staff has done a good job of developing secondary players quickly (see Eugene Wilson, Asante Samuel and Ellis Hobbs) and there's no questioning Cromartie's upside.

22. Denver Broncos (10-6)
Pick acquired from taterskins
Top-five needs: WR, TE, RB, OG/OC, DT
The pick: DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis
Tatum Bell replaces Mike Anderson, who is now a Raven, as the primary back in Denver. However, Bell has had some problems staying healthy despite splitting carries with Anderson. Ron Dayne is a decent short-yardage ball carrier, but he is limited due to poor speed and lack of elusiveness. The Broncos need a No. 2 back who can spell Bell and step in if Bell misses time with an injury, which is why Williams makes sense here. Williams has excellent initial quickness and he shows a second gear in the open field. His vision and patience also make him a great fit for Denver's zone-blocking schemes.

23. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (11-5)
Top-five needs: OT, OC, WR, WLB, DE
The pick: Jimmy Williams, DC, Virginia Tech
The Buccaneers will try to make a move up the board for OT Justice, but they are unlikely to reach for an offensive tackle such as Marcus McNeill (Auburn) or Eric Winston (Miami) with this pick. If stuck at pick No. 23, look for the Bucs to take advantage of a slipping talent such as Williams. The Bucs need depth at cornerback, and Williams is a perfect fit because of his size, playmaking skills and ability to defend the run. He also has experience at free safety, which gives him added value in a secondary that needs more versatility.

24. Cincinnati Bengals (11-5)
Top-five needs: TE, DE, DC, MLB, RS
The pick: Manny Lawson, DE, N.C. State
The Bengals have several needs on the defensive side of the ball, and they also need a playmaker at tight end. While it's possible that the team might select a tight end such as Georgia's Leonard Pope or UCLA's Marcedes Lewis, expect coach Marvin Lewis to go with an impact defender with this pick and then take advantage of this tight-end class in the next couple of rounds. Lawson is undersized and would be a better fit as a rush linebacker in a 3-4 scheme, but Lewis could afford to use Lawson as a situational pass-rusher early in his career while developing him for a role as a future starter.

25. New York Giants (11-5)
Top-five needs: OLB, WR, DT, OT, RB
The pick: Bobby Carpenter, OLB, Ohio State
Even if the Giants land free agent OLB LaVar Arrington, they still will be in the market for one in the first few rounds of the draft. Others such as DeMeco Ryans (Alabama) and Thomas Howard (UTEP) are possibilities, but Carpenter is the most versatile of the three available outside linebackers, and he also has a history with the organization, as his father, Rob, played for the Giants.

26. Chicago Bears (11-5)
Top-five needs: DC, TE, SLB, OT, DT
The pick: +Ashton Youboty, DC, Ohio State
Charles Tillman is coming offseason shoulder injury, unrestricted free agent Jerry Azumah isn't expected back and free-agent signee Dante Wesley isn't an every-down corner. Keeping that in mind, the Bears need a corner who will push for playing time opposite Nathan Vasher. Youboty is inconsistent and will give up some big plays when left on an island. However, he has good top-end speed, the frame to get bigger and good short-area man-to-man cover skills.

27. Carolina Panthers (11-5)
Top-five needs: SLB, TE, RB, OT, MLB
The pick: +LenDale White, RB, USC
White's postseason has been a disaster. On top of his hamstring injury, he has turned teams off by failing to get into shape and handle the process seriously. Regardless, White was extremely productive at the college level and is a powerful runner with good speed in the open field. While the Panthers have greater needs, White would give them great insurance should the oft-injured DeShaun Foster miss substantial time, and White will be the best available player if he slips to this pick.

28. Jacksonville Jaguars (12-4)
Top-five needs: OLB, TE, DE, OG, DC
The pick: Mathias Kiwanuka, DE, Boston College
The Jaguars could go in several different directions with this pick, including outside linebacker and tight end. Kiwanuka 's draft stock has dipped considerably due to subpar showings at the Senior Bowl and combine. However, he is a proven playmaker who recorded 35½ sacks during his four seasons at Boston College. Kiwanuka could be brought along slowly as a situational pass-rusher behind RDE Paul Spicer, who is better defending the run than rushing the quarterback.

29. New York Jets (4-12):
Pick acquired from Broncos
Top-five needs: RB, OT, OLB, QB, OG
The pick: +Laurence Maroney, RB, Minnesota
The Jets want to substantially reduce 32-year-old Curtis Martin's workload, but there isn't an heir apparent on the roster. Selecting Maroney here would change that. Though Maroney doesn't have great size or strength, he has the burst to get around the corner quickly and he shows a second gear in the open field. He also reads his blocks well and has the lateral mobility to exploit cut-back lanes, so he should push for significant playing time early on.

30. Indianapolis Colts (14-2)
Top-five needs: RB, OLB, OG, MLB, DC
The pick: Joseph Addai, RB, LSU
It will be difficult for any back to fill Edgerrin James' shoes in Indianapolis, especially if the top four backs are taken by the time the Colts select at pick No. 30. Addai is a bit of a reach here, but the Colts might be willing to take the risk considering their dire situation. At the very least, Addai is a good fit for the Colts' scheme. He isn't elusive and he needs to continue to add bulk to his frame -- but he is quick, he has explosive top-end speed and he runs hard. In addition, he catches the ball well and he's versatile enough to line up in the slot, making him a good fit for the Colts' no-huddle offense.

31. Seattle Seahawks (13-3)
Top-five needs: DC, FS, WR, OG, TE
The pick: Richard Marshall, DC, Fresno State
Marshall is quietly climbing up many teams' draft boards right now. He has adequate size to go along with his excellent combination of speed and ball skills. Marshall recorded nine interceptions in just three seasons at Fresno State, and he held up well when matched up one-on-one against USC's top receivers. Former Seattle DC Andre Dyson signed with the Jets, and Marshall has the natural ability to replace him as the starter opposite Marcus Trufant, if he can stay healthy.

32. Pittsburgh Steelers (11-5)
Top-five needs: WR, DE, DS, OC/OG, ILB
The pick: Jason Allen, DB, Tennessee
The Super Bowl champs are obviously void of many pressing positional needs. However, receiver, defensive line and safety are three they will target with this pick. The Steelers are looking for a bigger target opposite Hines Ward, and they know they can get a better value with a prospect such as Notre Dame's Maurice Stovall in the second round. There are some concerns regarding Allen's long-term durability after he suffered a season-ending hip injury as a senior. However, there seem to be mixed reports regarding his medical results. If the Steelers' training staff gives its personnel department the green light, Allen would be a perfect fit as a future starter at free safety opposite SS Troy Polamalu. Don't forget; the Steelers cashed in on a similar injury situation last year with TE Heath Miller.
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done.""  R.I.P George.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Philly Forever on April 19, 2006, 04:46:15 PM
All this is meaningless.

Bottom line: Broncos aren't getting Walker, and the Eagles are.

Celebrating 4/20 a day early, I see.

The BIGSTUD

You are trying to protect yourself from a disappointment by not thinking there is a chance the Eagles land Walker. You have no real logical explanation as to why they can't get him. All indications are there are 3 teams in the race for him right now and the Eagles have as good or better of a chance than any.
Calling it right on the $ since day one.
Just pointing laughing, and living it up while watching the Miami Heat stink it up.

PoopyfaceMcGee

That's a 33.3% chance, not 100%.

SunMo

actually... it's 33.33333333333(infinity)% chance
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

ice grillin you

can we get the full 7 round johnson??
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: ice grillin you on April 19, 2006, 05:05:06 PM
can we get the full 7 round johnson??

ESPN would probably sue :CF if someone posted that.

SunMo

it's true, i know for a fact that Philly Forever is actually Suzy Kolber
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

ice grillin you

i accept emails as well
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PoopyfaceMcGee

Wait, IGY... weren't you the one that said any mock past the 1st round is ridiculous?

ice grillin you

first rounds mocks are pretty ridiculous as well but i like looking at them...i like the full mocks because i like to see who should go approximately when...i like to see where the reaches happen
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous